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393:. Perfectly legitimate topic that used to be called Palestinian terrorism, and which was moved to Pal political violence is order to be as NPOV as possible. It would be obtuse to pretend there's no such thing. It's also of concern here that the nominator says she is a "an official of the Palestinian authority and a member of Hamas' political public relations division; I am an official representative of the authority in the online field." 79:. There is an obvious and clear consensus in the community that the article should not be deleted and so I closed the debate. The community's energy would be more appropriately directed towards improving the article and finding ways to right it that are acceptable to as wide a group as possible. I encourage further discussion about this article to be done on the article talk page. 328:, The introduction to the article clearly states that the perpetrators of the violence maintain that the violence is justified. The only reason this article is being attacked as POV is the fact that such acts of "political violence" will invariably reflect badly on their perpetrators... hmmm, perhaps we should delete any article that reflects badly on anyone - for instance, 461:- Nominator claims to be an official of the Palestinian Authority. Of course they would want this article deleted. Nomination is itself POV, and dishonest. Nowhere, especially from "the start" are the Palestinian people called "terrorists". It is very difficult to assume good faith with a nomination like this. - 288:... but we already have all those articles. It's a complex issue, and I'm not an expert on the subject, so if someone explains how this article can be balanced, I won't argue for deletion, but unless they do, it does look bad. -- 358: 366:
If it's POV, make it NPOV. If there's a better title, move it. If it needs further sourcing to make claims for "legitimate" violence, source it. It's clearly an important topic that should be covered.
223: 21: 316:. Edit it to make it what it should be, merge some of the other pages, or rename it yet again. An credible encyclopedia has to have an article on Palestinian terrorism, under whatever name. 248:, I agree that the article is biased -- because it is not named "Palestinian terrorism." But that is a different issue. Obviously there is no justification for deletion. 129: 124: 236:- POV minefield, from the offset it calls the people of Palestine terrorists without even mentioning that the violence may be legitimate. Very biased, must be removed. -- 156: 133: 508: 163:
POV minefield, from the offset it calls the people of Palestine terrorists without even mentioning that the violence may be legitimate. Very biased, must be removed.
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be made NPOV, it only focuses on one side of the issue by definition. Balancing it would require making it into an article about, say
276:- Bias isn't normally a reason for deletion of the article, but for improvement. However, I'm not sure an article with this title 480: 17: 208: 112: 104: 178: 281: 446:. Title is factual, not POV; POV comes in the reader's point of view that political violence is not a wonderful thing. 379:
On further consideration, I believe the current title is a fine NPOV choice. Convince me there's a better one. --
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Report the various points of view on the issue proportionally to their level of support, as usual? β€”
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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POV issues are a concern... but that's not a deletion issue, it's something to fix. -
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Might need a little cleanup, but that's not a reason to delete it.--
336:, etc. etc. Also, it's pretty clear that there is some degree of 531:
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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if that's true, there's a clear conflict of interest.
43:). No further edits should be made to this page. 340:in this nomination, but that's beside the point.-- 541:). No further edits should be made to this page. 8: 354:, and rename as Palestinian terrorism. 505:Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg 407:What's the equivalent article for the 7: 28: 18:Knowledge:Articles for deletion 370:is not a reason to delete. -- 113:Palestinian political violence 105:Palestinian political violence 22:Palestinian political violence 1: 282:Israeli-Palestinian conflict 558: 524:19:48, 21 March 2007 (UTC) 512:19:32, 21 March 2007 (UTC) 496:17:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC) 484:17:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC) 466:17:41, 21 March 2007 (UTC) 451:17:39, 21 March 2007 (UTC) 439:17:26, 21 March 2007 (UTC) 416:17:24, 21 March 2007 (UTC) 403:17:16, 21 March 2007 (UTC) 384:17:21, 21 March 2007 (UTC) 375:17:10, 21 March 2007 (UTC) 359:17:09, 21 March 2007 (UTC) 347:17:05, 21 March 2007 (UTC) 321:17:02, 21 March 2007 (UTC) 307:17:26, 21 March 2007 (UTC) 293:16:55, 21 March 2007 (UTC) 269:16:53, 21 March 2007 (UTC) 253:16:51, 21 March 2007 (UTC) 241:14:36, 21 March 2007 (UTC) 216:17:12, 21 March 2007 (UTC) 98:20:18, 21 March 2007 (UTC) 71:20:15, 21 March 2007 (UTC) 534:Please do not modify it. 36:Please do not modify it. 77:Closing admins comments 409:Irish Republican Army 262:Palestinian terrorism 188:Categorizing debate: 169:comment was added by 338:conflict of interest 356:Kuratowski's Ghost 332:reflects badly on 190:S (Society topics) 330:Watergate scandal 222:Previous debate: 218: 182: 549: 536: 286:Al-Aqsa Intifada 213: 212: 206: 205: 199: 198: 186: 164: 154: 136: 95: 89: 85: 68: 62: 58: 38: 557: 556: 552: 551: 550: 548: 547: 546: 545: 539:deletion review 532: 437: 305: 210: 209: 203: 202: 196: 195: 165:β€”The preceding 127: 111: 108: 91: 87: 81: 64: 60: 54: 48:The result was 41:deletion review 34: 26: 25: 24: 12: 11: 5: 555: 553: 544: 543: 527: 526: 514: 498: 486: 468: 453: 441: 433: 420: 419: 418: 388: 387: 386: 368:WP:IDONTLIKEIT 361: 349: 323: 311: 310: 309: 301: 271: 255: 243: 230: 229: 228: 227: 161: 160: 107: 102: 101: 100: 50:keep (WP:SNOW) 46: 45: 29: 27: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 554: 542: 540: 535: 529: 528: 525: 522: 518: 515: 513: 510: 506: 502: 499: 497: 494: 490: 487: 485: 482: 479: 476: 472: 469: 467: 464: 460: 458: 454: 452: 449: 445: 442: 440: 436: 432: 428: 424: 421: 417: 414: 410: 406: 405: 404: 401: 399: 395: 392: 389: 385: 382: 378: 377: 376: 373: 369: 365: 362: 360: 357: 353: 350: 348: 345: 343: 339: 335: 334:Richard Nixon 331: 327: 324: 322: 319: 315: 312: 308: 304: 300: 296: 295: 294: 291: 287: 283: 279: 275: 272: 270: 267: 263: 259: 256: 254: 251: 247: 244: 242: 239: 235: 232: 231: 226: 225: 220: 219: 217: 214: 207: 200: 193: 191: 185: 184: 183: 180: 176: 172: 168: 158: 152: 148: 144: 140: 135: 131: 126: 122: 118: 114: 110: 109: 106: 103: 99: 96: 94: 90: 84: 78: 75: 74: 73: 72: 69: 67: 63: 57: 51: 44: 42: 37: 31: 30: 23: 19: 533: 530: 516: 500: 488: 470: 455: 443: 429:potential. β€” 422: 390: 363: 351: 325: 318:Tom Harrison 313: 277: 273: 257: 245: 233: 221: 189: 187: 162: 92: 86: 82: 76: 65: 59: 55: 49: 47: 35: 32: 381:Scientizzle 372:Scientizzle 475:Briangotts 413:AnonEMouse 411:called? -- 398:SlimVirgin 290:AnonEMouse 481:(Contrib) 463:Crockspot 457:SNOWBALL 448:Gzuckier 204:Zahakiel 179:contribs 167:unsigned 157:View log 20:‎ | 274:Comment 266:Leifern 238:Asucena 171:Asucena 130:protect 125:history 478:(Talk) 427:WP:COI 234:DELETE 134:delete 521:MONGO 493:Denny 431:xyzzy 342:DLand 299:xyzzy 151:views 143:watch 139:links 16:< 517:Keep 509:Talk 501:Keep 489:Keep 471:Keep 459:Keep 444:Keep 423:Keep 391:Keep 364:Keep 352:Keep 326:Keep 314:Keep 264:. -- 258:Keep 250:6SJ7 246:Keep 175:talk 147:logs 121:talk 117:edit 83:Buck 56:Buck 284:or 278:can 155:– ( 93:ofg 88:ets 66:ofg 61:ets 507:| 181:). 177:β€’ 149:| 145:| 141:| 137:| 132:| 128:| 123:| 119:| 52:. 435:n 303:n 211:β–Ί 197:β—„ 192:. 173:( 159:) 153:) 115:(

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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
Palestinian political violence
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20:15, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
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20:18, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
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Palestinian political violence
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Zahakiel
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17:12, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
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