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organizations that are classed as top tier are from the USA. No European organization? It is ridiculous that anything not UFC, Invicta, Bellator is not top tier. Cage Warriors have multiple shows around the world and have signed the very best fighters on the European scene. I strongly feel the bias against our part of the world. But even greater there is a bias against women in MMA. For example - why has UCMMA champ
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I don't understand your argument. The page you're referring to on Georgio Andrews is a redlink, which means it doesn't exist. As far as consensus goes, the discussion about MMA notability was a long and contentious one with many editors taking part--including a number from Europe. If you wish to
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74 in the co-main event (second criteria). She has fought for Superior Challenge (Scandinavias largest MMA-organisation), Cage Warriors (Europes largest MMA-organisation) and PRO FC (a large Russian MMA-organization) (third criteria). In other words, she's notable enough to have a wikipedia page in
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I deleted your latest vote because you're only allowed 1 vote per discussion, although you can comment as often as you like. I realize this is basically the only article you've edited in nearly 3 years, but you're still not supposed to make up your own notability criteria. Unilaterally declaring
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Comment - I'm sorry if I overstepped some kind of boundary, not my intention. But I don't agree that there is a consensus, just a majority towards a stand point. But I strongly feel that Kianzad fulfills the criteria and that there is a bias against anything not American. three out of four
506:"Kianzad is ranked 19th in the world as a bantamweight and 3rd among bantamweights outside of UFC. Kianzad is the highest ranked bantamweight in Europe." - That has to count for something = Top Tier. For European women Cage Warriors is as "top tier" as it gets and would say it is equal to 167: 483:
with no top tier fights. Many MMA fighters with second tier titles have been deleted. I'm not convinced by people ignoring consensus and creating their own notability criteria simply because
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as two time champion. I'm beginning to feel a bias towards anything not UFC or American. And a bias because she is a women. She has beaten Milana Dudieva that is in the UFC.
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a wiki page that isn't contested? UCMMA is a smaller organisation and classed as second tier. I believe it is based on gender when it comes to Kianzad and that is a shame.
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Cage Warriors, whilst not UFC-level, is the biggest European organisation by far. Fighting for their belt isn't a joke.
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Response to the above from Patrick Jenkinson by looking at "Criteria supporting notability according to
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http://www.mmaviking.com/eeva-siiskonen-steps-in-to-face-pannie-kianzad-for-cage-warriors-belt/
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argue for a change in the MMA notability criteria, an AfD discussion is not the proper place.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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something to be top tier when there's already a consensus is considered to be bad form.
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with no top tier fights. Being a "prospect" is a sure sign someone is not yet notable.
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She's now Cage Warriors Bantamweight champion, so I think she now counts for definite.
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Non-notable MMA fighter with few fights and non-Top tier. Does not meet
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Cage Warriors is not top tier. You might want to look at
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on Saturday when she fights for the bantamweight title at
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is considered one of the hottest prospects outside of the
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The notability criteria for MMA fighters can be found at
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No one said it's a joke, but it isn't top tier either.
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