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Premiere and seminars -- whom I sheparded for the three day event. I have all of the daily updates from Fox as to who would be attending. But although these are filed in the 3" volume I mentioned earlier, I did not maintain the envelopes, addressed to me at my home in New Haven, in which they arrived -- never thinking that I would ever have to provide proof of this fantastic, once in a lifetime experience. In fact, Fox, post Premiere, mailed me every proof sheet their people shot during the multiple, multi day events. Also the original TV news film footage was given to me by our CT/ABC affiliate, now known as WTNH. You say I can quote book reviews. Do I then need to scan & upload them for verification? And where? To Knowledge (XXG)? Or Wikimedia? I have reviews for some, but not all, of the books I authored. All are excellent. Some publishers, such as John Day, send them to their authors. Others do not. For my educational background, would scanning the pages with my name from the Bayside HS and Bennington College Alumni Directories be considered third party sources? I'm willing to do whatever any/all of you think will be necessary. I just hope that you will give the same scrutiny to others folks bios as well. I have seen and read more than a few, currently at Knowledge (XXG), that have little or no verification and have no flags. I am willing to work with all of you, if all of you can supply me with constructive input.
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expected to be without power for three to ten more days. She is functioning with a cell phone that has to be charged in her car and with batteries and flashlights. She has been rendered incommunicado and has been unable to continue submitting to you items from the extensive material that provides documentation of her history. These include: • Proof of change of name from
Margaret Adler to Peggy Adler in the sixth grade • Book reviews of her published books •A myriad of newspaper articles which will verify all the jobs that were listed in the article as she originally submitted it • Many more items yet to be scanned.
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have written a book that's in a library. very likely some of the people you're talking to here have done so themselves. what's meaningful is that the books you've written have been discussed by third parties. there is no expectation on wikipedia that sources have to be available online or easily accessible (although NYT articles from forever are through academic databases), so if you could just use your library of clippings to reference statements to reliable sources, i think that you might have a better chance of rescuing your article than if you keep trying variations on the
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Century Fox, in connection with their World Premiere of “Butch Cassidy”, including a letter, to me, from Jonas Rosenfield, Jr., then VP and head of publicity for Fox, thanking me for my work on the Premiere. I can unframe the subpoena that I received from the U. S. House of Representatives and scan it as well.
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dear ms. adler: as a writer, investigator, etc, you are probably familiar with the distinction between primary and secondary sources. the problem that the people here who have a problem with your article have is not that the information in it is untrue. i doubt that anyone thinks that any of it is
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Hi Sarek, What is a reliable source for my change of name when I was in the 6th grade? Report cards? My diploma? Driver's license sans date of birth? This info was originally in the text and someone removed it and put it under my photo. After that, I just tried to keep the info accurate, since
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Puzzles and Riddles”. And at ages 20 and 21 no less. My bio now merely says that I illustrated them. How many authors are published by mainstream, New York publishers (not vanity presses) at that age? And the reviews in
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source and then cited to that source in the article. if you have reviews for the books you've published, i suggest that you try citing them as references for the existence and notability of your books, rather than the books' entries in the LOC catalog, as, believe me, it's not that meaningful to
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In fact, Kevin Bacon’s sister, Elinor (Lini) was my first semester roommate during my Freshman year at Bennington College in 1959. I am sorry that so many of you do not believe that I have done what was in my bio, as originally written. I can assure you that everything that was said there was an
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Dear Sarek, When you say you rely on "other people" for your info, I'm puzzzled. Wouldn't I count as "other people". I have first hand knowledge of everything I described about Peggy Adler and everything is googlable as well. Do I need to provide urls, take a lie detector test? Please advise. Ron
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had the persistence and skills to track down some important tax, real estate and corporation name-changing by the Skull and Bones shell corporation, as well as trace the links of Skull and Bones members to intelligence agencies.
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