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222:; played just a handful of games outside the low minors. Such sources as are in the article are primary and don't discuss the subject in the "significant detail" the GNG requires. Reliable sources which both satisfy the GNG and don't run afoul of WP:GEOSCOPE or WP:ROUTINE -- especially when obscured by a 468:
He didn't play (or coach) 100+ games in one of the upper tier minor leagues as is required. The links Dolovis points to fail WP:ROUTINE and WP:GEOSCOPE as mentioned by Ravenswing. In doing my own search I can't find any references which allow him to pass
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for having played 100+ games in fully professional minor leagues, and for having coached another 100+ games in the professional minor leagues. The subject also passes GNG, with significant and independent sources to be found including
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the bottom rung semi-pro loops in which Esposito had his brief playing career and in which he coaches. If you disagree with the scope of NHOCKEY's criteria, the proper response is to seek consensus for your POV on
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satisfy the GNG, even if they didn't violate WP:ROUTINE and WP:GEOSCOPE, which they do. Furthermore, as you well know, the NHOCKEY criterion governing playing or coaching 100+ games apply solely to
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Ah, fair enough. Of course, playing 100+ games (or coaching in) in bottom rung semi-pro leagues forms no part of notability criteria.
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per above. A handful of appearances in semi-pro leagues does not meet the SNG, and routine local coverage doesn't cut it.
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Each and every one of those sources come from the local small city paper's website, which by definition would
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Player has played over 100 games in the minors and also coached an additional 100 games in the Federal League
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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despite the fact that google searches are obscured by his more famous namesake.
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Playing and coaching minor league hockey is not enough to show notability.
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Comment: Actually, the reasons for PROD removal are found on the
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Non-notable hockey player, fails of all criteria of
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