313:. Unfortunately I do not read Czech nor have access to 1945-1956 news archives. Historical? I believe so. Reliable sources for the rebirth of theater arts in post World-War II and then film arts in Communist controlled Czechoslovakia? Likely. This one need input from Wikipedians knowledgable in the language. With respects to the nom, what took place and where it took place will make English sources dificult, but not quite imposible to find. We need some help from
243:, an English-language film from a major studio, nominated for 5 Oscars and winner of 4 Golden Globes, has been rated by just 294 IMDB users; yet hopefully no-one would argue on that basis that it's non-notable. And in any case, the article also covers the original play, which has been the subject of in-depth commentary by multiple independent sources, including many non-Czech ones, as pointed out above.
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