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William Muir), according to the article, Prophet Muhammad (SAWW), placed his hand at the bottom of his Sahabas, and than at the top of everyone else, for Hazrat Uthman. But according to the book, Hazrat Muhammad (SAWW) placed his hand at the bottom and after everyone placed their hands on his hand, he than placed his second hand (on behalf of his one and only son-in-law, Ali ibn Abi Talib) on top. Do you see how even the article is disagreeing with the book. I am not trying to say that an incident as such as this, ever took place in the history of Islam. According to my knowledge, nothing like this ever happened. Therefore, it should be deleted. Thanks
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There has been a claim that references exist for this article, yet where are these references from reliable sources? Presently, there are none. Also, there has never been a clear claim as to why this topic should be percieved as notable. This subject may exist, but that is no claim to notability. As
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Dear contributors, there is no reliable reference or source which proves the validity of this article. Like I said, the
Quranic verse which is provided doesn’t even refer to this unknown incident, but it was regarding the Pledge of Aqaba. The article is even disagreeing with what the author of the
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I strongly believe that this article should be deleted from
Knowledge, because no such incident ever took place in the history of Islam, where the Prophet Hazrat Muhammad (S.A.W.W.) asked his Sahabahs to pledge him to avenge anyone’s murder. I have searched his issue on internet also, nothing came
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Well there are three branches in Islam: Shi’as, Sunnis, and
Wahabies. I am a Shi’a and I can definitely say that my branch doesn’t believe in this. I have never read any book or article in which Wahabies have mentioned anything like this being occurred. I have studied Sunni Hadith books and
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Edward321, the sources which have been provided are not reliable sources. The sources or references have to satisfy the reference policy of
Knowledge. If a reference doesn’t suit the policy of Knowledge then it can’t be considered as a reliable or accurate source of information. Thanks
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up. I suggest that this is an act of vandalism. The writer has also posted a verse from the Quran, which talks about the Pledge of Aqaba. I would say that this is surely a case of spreading misconceptions.
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Collier, no such incident ever took place in the history of Islam. This article is even disagreeing from the book (whom link has been provided). Thanks
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MBisanz, may I know the reason, based on which you have decided to keep this article. With do all respect, I believe the users were still debating about the idea of deleting this page. Thanks
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therefore, I can say that I never even read it in their? This is why I am advocating for this article to be removed, because it is “giving-birth” and spreading misconceptions. Thanks
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