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187:. This suggests to me that the person adding them not only is clueless about the mechanics (as well of course as rights and wrongs) of adding external links but also may not even have looked at what's (incompetently) linked to, instead simply pasting this stuff in from lists of ghits, all in a desperate and undiscriminating effort to demonstrate more and more significance for the subject of the article. 155:. It's conceivable that he meets the sixth, reception of "a notable award or honor" (which of course leaves the meaning of "notable" open to dispute). Certainly the article claims that he has won a variety of awards, but there's no straightforwardly presented evidence that he has won any that look more as if they might be "notable", while those that look less as if they are "notable" (such as 31: 182:
Since then, the article has deteriorated considerably. More particularly, one or two editors have let nothing -- automated messages from bots, personal messages from humans such as me, lurid CSS coloring of my personal messages -- dissuade them from adding shovelfuls of links. The greatest number are
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per the well-argued nom. AfD is not cleanup, but when an article is this bad, the creator is apparently unwilling or unable to take advice on improving it, there's no real prospect of another editor fixing it in the near future, and the subject is marginally notable at best, I think it's reasonable
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Since the "contributors" to this article seem uninterested in any advice that they're given, I have no reason to expect that the article will improve; and, as I've said, the subject of the article seems on the "nn" side (though a respectable academic who I hope and expect would be horrified by the
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thanks due to Hoary & Toddst1 for trying to fix this article, despite their efforts, it's unacceptably poor. It seems like the path to improvement is through deletion. Given the veracity problem raised by Teleomatic I'm unable to take the claims made in the article at face value, and the
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I hope that I am not in breach of "CIVIL" if I say that, its subject aside, this article strikes me as a godawful mess. I fully realize that godawful messiness is not a reason for deletion, and that messy articles on worthwhile subjects should be improved, not deleted. The
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stated, none of this coaching was paid any attention to or even acknowledged. (One has been blocked) I have no reason to expect that the article will improve.
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to make an exception. Deletion should, of course, be without prejudice to an experienced editor writing a more coherent article which establishes notability.
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Pandey as the person answering a reporter's inquiries. As I understood it, he's a respectable but minor academic who once ran a research institution.
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is, as the user page suggests, simply another account creation for Dr. Pandey to promote his own article, that's wrong as well.
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Several of the pages that were also created by the same persons look like they need cleanup aor deletion. See, for instance
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that I venture to say is understandable. However, in doing this I found that most of the links I left in did no more than
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will show that on 25 January I made a concerted effort on just one part of the article: its references. These were
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Good catch - it seems I was a little hasty in drawing conclusions. I still feel notability is an issue however.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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An academic who verifiably exists but who does not appear to meet even one of the criteria set out by
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comes as a bit of a surprise, though of course he/she may just have been using it as a "sandbox". --
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Some of the claims also seem fictitious, including that he is the founder or director of the
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to clean up up the article and to try to coach the actual contributors to this article. As
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per nom. However, I may reconsider if the article is cleaned up during the AfD period. --
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article's sourcing is just too nutbar to expect the general WP readership to deal with.
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per nom. Also, a duplicate article was created with the inexplicable title of
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before I set to work; I pruned out the obviously superfluous and came up with
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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issues attached to this page, not to mention the issue of
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Er, not quite. Yes, the article was first created (as
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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
deletion review on 2008 July 31
Knowledge:Deletion review
deletion review
Bongwarrior
talk
02:22, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Prem C. Pandey
Prem C. Pandey
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
View log
Knowledge:Notability (academics)
Hari Om Asharam Prerit Vikram Sarabhai Award
article's history
a grotesque and incomprehensible mishmash
a list
Hoary
talk
10:32, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions
WikiProject Deletion sorting/India
Hoary

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