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material would leave a stub or sub-stub. One remedy would be to change the guidelines to state that films are notable when they are in principal photography, even without any coverage, but that would just encourage promotional use. Another remedy would be to apply the guideline as written. Another approach would be to ignore the disconnect, which is what we do. I am willing to change my !vote to
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itself has been notable. As applied, films are considered notable, at least by some editors including AFD !voters, if principal photography has begun. This has the side effect of encouraging the creation of promotional articles on films in principal photography, although removing the promotional
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notes, accusations of promotional bias are not appropriate here, if you feel that is problem then the talk page on the article is the place to address it. The talk page is currently empty, why not start a discussion there instead of here where it is not
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Comment - this film has not been released yet, but very soon will be. Would it not be sensible to have an article on this film after the film has been released?
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and the way that the guidelines are applied. As written, unreleased films, and this one was unreleased when it was nominated, are only notable if
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as it seems to be getting more coverage now it has been released. It needs a reception section referencing reviews from reliable sources.
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he might have understood the film has screened and received poor review. Again, wow. Even a hated bad film can meet standards.
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there's no need to be condescending. Furthermore, even if this is the case, the promotional aspect is still unaddressed.
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If the film turns out to be notable, recreate it. At the moment it serves only to promote the film before its release.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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who also reminds us that we don't delete just because it's terrible. Otherwise
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the promotionalism wasn't the main reason for deletion, the failure of
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this (finally) released and screened and reviewed film per meeting
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covers the film's release in a more-than-trivial manner, as does
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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been subsequently released and has requisite coverage to meet
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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