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589:- The sources given in the article (particularly the first three) indicate notability. As does the reasoning provided by HexaChord. I would prefer if some of the magazines/newspapers covering Queen bootlegs were referenced in the article, but I understand that 30 year old newspapers and magazines are generally not condusive to a Google search, and having lived through the 70s myself I know that such coverage existed. 237: 668:
publication. You're welcome to quote liberally from it, there's nothing within the abstract that talkes about bootleg recordings. It appears to be a paper on their reliance on emerging media. There's no way that they would actually rely on bootlegs, as they wouldn't get any profit from them.
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The coverage isn't significant enough. There is a passing mention on BBC News, without anything to make an article out of other than one sentence. I'm not paying for the Star Telegram; but it appears to be more of the same; a one-sentence passing mention. Again, I can't see the Music Week
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were/are known to buy them. Today's college kids should know that bootlegs were far more important back in the days when there was no Youtube and no Internet for the public (see
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reference citing a 2001 survey showing that Queen had the highest number of bootleg websites (12,225) of any band. Queen bootlegs are undoubtedly notable.
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of bootlegs to be unreferenced original research. We can accommodate both by merging the lead paragraph about Queen being the most bootlegged band ever to
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that said that bootlegs contributed to Queen's success in Iran; while Freddie being Parsi may have contributed as well, it doesn't contradict the
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not only are there problems with listcruft, but the chief claim to notability comes from a statement from their website. We need
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
51:. OK, call me rouge for this if you want, but I read this AfD as follows: Those arguing "keep" note that the 675: 621: 686: 662: 632: 598: 581: 530: 512: 487: 470: 453: 428: 390: 352: 334: 310: 281: 255: 218: 197: 168: 79: 653:, where the "chief claim to notability" was actually documented, if you'd bother to look at the footnote? 425: 279: 466: 315:
The reliable sources cited show that the subject of "Queen bootlegs" itself is notable. And it was the
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for more info). Even big magazines and newspapers wrote about bootleg releases and notability is
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and redirecting the page there. This means the list stays in the history and can be revived as a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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of Queen bootlegs is interesting and sourced, while those advocating deletion consider the
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are reliable sources, or why the claims made by them aren't claims to notability? Or
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Queen bootlegs are notable, nor can I find any reliable sources which do the same.
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themselves that made Queen popular in Iran, it's the fact that Freddie Mercury was
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since the topic doesn't seem big enough for its own article. Leave this page as a
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at least the points mentioned by DHowell (if not the whole list of bootlegs) to
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
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I tend to agree with Esradekan on this. A large indiscriminate list.
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sources to establish notability, and this article doesn't address
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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there since it's a likely search term and redirects are cheap.
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article as soon as there is consensus and sufficient sources.
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The Top 50 (or so) Most EPIC Pirated Queen Songs, EVER
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –
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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
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Queen
Queen
WP:SS
 Sandstein 
05:21, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
Queen bootlegs
Queen bootlegs
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talk
history
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links
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views
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View log
Rwiggum

Contrib
14:38, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
indiscriminate list
unsource
 Esradekan Gibb 
00:45, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
WP:LISTCRUFT
JamesBurns

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