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1924:) on one of the websites is a press release announcing its new clients. This information is aimed at investors and maybe some clients. It is not independent reporting because it definitely appears to be simply published as is. There is no journalistic reporting here; it it is the founder tooting his own horn and a web publication hungry for content (so it can sponsor the advertisements you see surrounding headlines and content after you click on the headline). I'm guessing it is a tech industry mouthpiece, based on its main page "news" - which is almost all tech related. This is not a newspaper like the New York Times or LA Times or Boston Globe and not a magazine like Time, or The New Yorker. This is a really trivial source. ---
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661:. What about these? I can give a 100 more such examples. And please refer to the previous discussion page before putting aggressive names like SPA. I clearly mentioned that I have no correlation with this company, I decided to create this page after stumbling upon the VB article. And iam new here. As for lousy articles : VentureBeat and Livemint are major publications in India, I dono where you live. Thanks.
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In 2 days, I have made 5-6 edits out of this page (thanks to you guys trying to take down this one and me having to spend most of my free time explaining why you shouldn't) and of them some are related to the pages that I visited the process of checking out pages in the same industry as this company.
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If that was the case, if you were so convinced that the page shouldn't exist, why did you not replace the speedy deletion tag with a normal deletion tag? Instead you place a citation tag on it, and now that you see your seniors are here objecting it, you are here to reverse your claim. Also, what is
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your request for deletion was denied - no wonder you are a fringe element here with these two. And VC funding? This is bootstrapped company! You are not just ignorant but proudly so. You said that
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the problem, more precisely, is the the sources are simply reporting funding. These are routine notices, not discriminating coverage--all companies that raise money from such funds receive such notices--i'ts a part of the way the venture capital industry publicises itself, and part of the service it
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stating how this company's products influence their clients, that is a problem. It needs to make the news or an independent business publication. It isn't enough to say "Microsoft uses it, so it influences them." We need to know how. If you don't want "football enthusiasts" to comment on business
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You are clearly wrong. I have made edits since I joined but I also made it very clear that this article was my very first contribution. It is when I read this company's article on VB, wanted some more info about companies in this field and saw that there was no article. Thats when I joined. And
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I agree with you. However, there is a different between B2C and B2B products. B2C being consumer centric, like computers, usually command more awareness, hence you or other editors here might know about them. However, there are plenty of products like the ones by QuestionPro (market research
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Can you show how those major articles are press releases? Especially when you are also calling them authoritative sources? And as for the merger, when a small company is merged with a larger, the larger keeps the name-in this case QuestionPro. Thank you.And please sign your
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The article does not indicate how this company's services are "critical" to any organization. Do you have evidence that, for example, this company's products influenced Microsoft to make some business decision, in some way that a competitor's product would not have done?
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I did not 'cave' to anyone or anything. I cannot control what the hundreds of thousands of other people here might do. I never said citation was the only problem. It also is not up to me to defend the article you believe should exist, it is up to you.
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here. Also to highlight the fact that articles that can help even terrorists make bombs still exist, its not subjective to what kind of readers they want. Probably work on those first before hitting a company page if you are so concerned? Thank you.
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Iam not even talking about what they thought. My simple point is that you decided this article required citation and not deletion and now seeing that someone has actually reversed your decision - you caved. Thats my only point. Thank you.
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software) which are critical to the organizations like Google, Microsoft, HP and so on, but you may not know about it but it matters a lot to many people. I suggest you study a little about this field. No pun intended. Thank you.
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So I don't really expect you to remove it, since I know now by experience that you are not so very reasonable, but Iam making my point clear here. It isn't necessarily a bad thing; just a fact. Thank you.
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not your fault, most editors here simply don't have enough knowledge on how the industry works. This is also what happens when football enthusiasts are allowed to determine the future of business pages.
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ooze of hypocrisy and biased resentment.Your request was shut down before, so now shut up. This is Knowledge (XXG), an encyclopedia on EVERYTHING. Not selective based on your conservative view points.
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