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that we know that Reach is an agency as well as a website this does make it much more likely to be notable. If the article is kept I think we would want to use those sources as the basis for a more-or-less complete rewrite and rename the article to match the correct name. (I was taking it on trust that the article was correctly named which is why I wasn't finding stuff when I searched for sources and why I assumed it would be easier than it is.) As it stands the article is pretty much a puff piece but now we have some better sources it may be rescuable after all. --
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initiative I'd say it is fairly typical. The fact that it may be presented differently and use social media makes it notable in itself. There is a big problem in applying notability criteria to government and large organisations when most of what is produced concerning them is generated by them and therefore a primary source, but it must be well known in Singapore and it has been going for five years. The Government of Singapore, by the way, has a reputation of being a well run and progressive outfit, so it isn't surprising to see them doing something different. --
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Those two media links are both helpful for demonstrating some notability and providing verifiability. It is now possible to be clearer about what the site actually is and what the organisation is behind it. This is something that the article, and the site itself, does not explain clearly at all. Now
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No evidence of notability. Referenced only to primary sources. Promotional tone. Is it really a government department/division? It certainly doesn't look like it from the website. It looks like a website that promotes some Government programmes. Is every individual website that a government produces
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government information portal then I would accept that this makes it automatically notable (for any government in the world) but it was certainly not obvious to me that this is that. Lots of governments make lots of overlapping portalish websites that repeat and reblog government information. This
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Notable as important national government interface with its population. The nominator asks whether this is really an arm of government? With the three top stories when I looked on the website the results of the pre-budget consultation, the official inflation statistics and a crime prevention
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I'm not sure whether we are arguing here about whether the website is what it claims to be or whether it is notable in the sense that people will have heard of it, since they overlap. The stated purpose is set out
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We are certainly not here to argue the merits of any particular government and I am surprised to see it raised as an issue. Lets leave that aside and look at your points. If this really is the
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here? Singapore is an English speaking country. It shouldn't be hard to find the references required, if they exist, but I am finding almost nothing when I look. --
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Nobody else has chimed in in favour of deletion and the above exchange has weakened my belief that deletion is necessary. Accordingly I think it best if
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be possible to prove it. Where are the newspaper references from a few years back saying "Government unveils brand new web portal". Where is the
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I strongly disagree that there is any intrinsic problem proving notability. If this really is the main government web portal then it
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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notable? Probably not. Is this one? Not that I can see. Google has next to nothing on it.
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looks like it could be one of those and I see nothing to prove otherwise in the article.
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so we can instead try to clean up the article according to the sources found. --
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be well known in Singapore" (my emphasis). If that really is so then it
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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is actually the main Singapore government web portal. It says
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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
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Ron Ritzman
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23:56, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
REACHSingapore
REACHSingapore
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DanielRigal
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19:33, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
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