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546:-- You cannot expect to find a lot of English language sources on a Georgian subject. An academic with 103 articles and 2 monographs has a large body of work, but you cannot expect English language citation indices to record this. Transliteration is not an exact science and even a minor difference in that is liable to upset the count from any citation index. If Georgian WP thinks her notable, I do not think we English one should dissent. Translation notices are only appropriate where the English needs improving. 480:
of citation patterns between fields is well-known to anybody who frequents academic pages, and allowance is (or should) be made. One compares like with like; theology with theology- computer science with computer science. If notability is to be proved, sources have to be found and in this case they have not been yet.
510:. The article makes no case for notability by scholarly impact (not just publication) or in any other way. I'd be willing to change my mind if someone here turns up significantly better sources about the subject, but I suspect such sources would be in Georgian, making them difficult for non-Georgians to find. β€” 479:
That is one opinion, ten years old. Since then GS has expanded in scope and, if citations exist, GS will usually find them. GS will certainly find citations to humanities subjects. However, citations in humanities, particularly by older scholars, tend to be fewer than in the sciences. The difference
776:: NACADEMIC generally supports notability of a full professor and department head. We do have language issues and if the content that is in there is verifiable, which it apparently is, then it is clear this individual meets the GNG threshold. Maybe not by a big margin, but enough. 344: 355: 340: 317: 338:
Greetings! Material presented in this article is verified and trusted, so reason for deleting it is not fair. It is partly translated and checked with relevant sources. Please, cancel requirement for deleting. Sincerely, Giorgi Chubinidze.
364:. I have not found sources in English that show that Gujejiani is notable. Can you give us any in Georgian that discuss her or her work? (We can use Google Translate to read them, but it's hard to search if you don't know Georgian). – 837:). This is a significantly higher bar than just being a full professor (a term which, by the way, only makes sense in a North American context). Besides, her English faculty page says Gujejiani is an associate professor 183: 273: 234: 640:
here - not even that. So GS count remains at 0. I can find nothing in Georgian as well. The person is not notable even by Georgian standards of academia as far as I understand them.
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Yes but it's not nearly as good at indexing and calculating metrics for non-English scholarship. It's also comparatively poor at finding history and humanities papers. See
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The person holds or has held a named chair appointment or Distinguished Professor can be applied reliably only for persons who are tenured at the full professor level
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It's not enough that the information is correct, the subject has to be notable. The notability criteria for academics on the English Knowledge (XXG) can be found at
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be expected to find citations, if they exist. It has never been a Knowledge (XXG) policy that if sources cannot be found, it can be assumed that they exist.
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I am not sure why XFDcloser is not listing 3rd relists in the proper category, it does for me. I foun some mentions in GS.
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leads me to believe that this argument is a mis-reading of the Specific criteria notes for criteria 5, which says,
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here we only have a reference to something she's written, not the article itself by Rozeta Gujejiani, same
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I'm not sure GS is going to be a very useful metric for a historian writing exclusively (?) in Georgian. –
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cautions "the absence of references in Google Scholar should not be used as proof of non-notability". –
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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presumes full professors are notable is coming from. What it actually says is that a
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NACADEMIC generally supports notability of a full professor and department head
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I don't see any articles in those 4 links (rather 3) authored by the suspect.
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assumes that full professors are notable. Several people disagree with this.
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A reluctant relist.Some arguments seem to be lacking policy-based rationales.
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Well done in digging out these 4 cites, but they are not in-depth enough for
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unless additional sources are forthcoming. There's nothing I can find. –
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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The statement above has no foundation in policy or precedent.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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GS list writings in Georgian, as you will see from the link.
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the article he created in the Georgian wp on 20 August 2015
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list of Georgia (country)-related deletion discussions
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I can find no such justification there. 291: 271: 254:list of Women-related deletion discussions 251: 232: 320:, and is almost a word-for-word copy of 583:What about these cites I found on GS? 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 385:. Fair or not, GS cites are zero. 24: 612:and are not enough in number for 833:can be presumed to be notable ( 1: 959:15:01, 13 August 2017 (UTC) 937:20:00, 11 August 2017 (UTC) 79:23:50, 13 August 2017 (UTC) 997: 916:22:43, 6 August 2017 (UTC) 884:05:53, 4 August 2017 (UTC) 852:21:48, 30 July 2017 (UTC) 805:22:39, 30 July 2017 (UTC) 783:20:25, 30 July 2017 (UTC) 764:22:28, 29 July 2017 (UTC) 746:17:42, 29 July 2017 (UTC) 727:15:07, 27 July 2017 (UTC) 688:10:25, 19 July 2017 (UTC) 650:13:14, 20 July 2017 (UTC) 626:09:53, 19 July 2017 (UTC) 604:09:44, 19 July 2017 (UTC) 578:22:38, 16 July 2017 (UTC) 556:14:52, 16 July 2017 (UTC) 539:08:34, 13 July 2017 (UTC) 520:07:32, 13 July 2017 (UTC) 490:00:04, 13 July 2017 (UTC) 457:22:41, 12 July 2017 (UTC) 433:22:21, 12 July 2017 (UTC) 419:11:16, 12 July 2017 (UTC) 395:22:38, 11 July 2017 (UTC) 376:11:16, 12 July 2017 (UTC) 349:19:58, 11 July 2017 (UTC) 334:15:43, 11 July 2017 (UTC) 306:15:02, 11 July 2017 (UTC) 286:15:02, 11 July 2017 (UTC) 266:15:02, 11 July 2017 (UTC) 246:09:40, 11 July 2017 (UTC) 227:09:13, 11 July 2017 (UTC) 969:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 827:distinguished professor 71:be full professors. -- 906:on other grounds. 869:Relisting comment: 637:here as well, and 59:My own reading of 956: 951: 886: 850: 831:major institution 729: 724: 690: 686: 642:Scrabble Scribble 537: 455: 417: 374: 308: 288: 268: 248: 219:Scrabble Scribble 988: 971: 954: 949: 881: 874: 866: 864: 844: 780: 715: 709: 704: 702: 700: 685: 683: 676: 674: 672: 670: 600: 595: 531: 449: 411: 406: 368: 359: 244: 209: 208: 194: 146: 134: 116: 93:Rozeta Gujejiani 85:Rozeta Gujejiani 34: 996: 995: 991: 990: 989: 987: 986: 985: 984: 978:deletion review 967: 950:(distΓ¦nt write) 888: 877: 859: 857: 778: 730: 707: 695: 693: 691: 679: 677: 665: 663: 598: 593: 400: 356:αƒ’αƒ˜αƒαƒ αƒ’αƒ˜ αƒ©αƒ£αƒ‘αƒ˜αƒœαƒ˜αƒ«αƒ” 353: 341:αƒ’αƒ˜αƒαƒ αƒ’αƒ˜ αƒ©αƒ£αƒ‘αƒ˜αƒœαƒ˜αƒ«αƒ” 318:αƒ’αƒ˜αƒαƒ αƒ’αƒ˜ αƒ©αƒ£αƒ‘αƒ˜αƒœαƒ˜αƒ«αƒ” 238: 151: 142: 107: 91: 88: 48:The result was 41:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 994: 992: 983: 982: 962: 961: 939: 918: 872: 867: 856: 855: 854: 811: 810: 809: 808: 786: 785: 770: 769: 768: 767: 749: 748: 703: 692: 673: 662: 661: 660: 659: 658: 657: 656: 655: 654: 653: 652: 559: 558: 541: 522: 512:David Eppstein 504: 503: 502: 501: 500: 499: 498: 497: 496: 495: 494: 493: 466: 465: 464: 463: 462: 461: 460: 459: 441:. 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