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by someone with a connection to Oxfam, but that isnt a COI issue unless the creator tried to take ownership of the article, especially if they also also tried to hide their COI. Neither is the case, almost no trace of the creators original work remains and in fact she welcomed others to editor the article, and hasnt objected to any of the changes. If it werent for the fact that CC and OTG are new editors the suggestions of collusion and untoward editing from obviously very honest, collaborative and talented contributors such as Melanie and Boyd would be highly objectionable. If possible please can the closing admin confirm that the arguments of Pit-Yacker and Boyd are policy based and that there is no credible case for the tags added to the article?
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amazing fun. Now all I need to do is work out how to get paid for doing this and my life will be complete! Iā€™m also doing some venue research for Oxfam Live, which has turned out to be more rewarding than I initially expected it to be. As with anything of this nature itā€™s a lot of phone calls and checking details. However, during my research I did talk to some really cool people. It made me happy to have conversations with people who were just nice, helpful, friendly and pleased that Oxfam was showing an interest in their venue. Made the whole thing feel more personal and pleasant.
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secondly whether any faults it has can reasonably be rectified. The present version is somewhat promotional in tone, but nowhere near enough to justify a G11 speedy deletion, as the nomination suggests. The concept has received plenty of coverage in reliable sources, so it warrants an article. If the article it warrants is not the present article then the constructive approach is to rewrite it to give a more balanced coverage, rather than to delete it. It was I that declined the speedy deletion request, and nothing I have read above gives me any reason to change my mind.
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I had partly agreed with. As a wiki otter I dont like to see new editors being discouraged, and for a similar reason I posted my advice on oldtaxGuys page in a respectful and hopefully encouraging tone. My personal opinion about this tax is that a lot of the criticism is valid. Im the editor who has added most of the strongest sources against the tax! So while I support taxing the wealthy in general its not really correct to say I support this particular tax, though I am interested in it and want us to have a good, reliable and encyclopedic article.
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revenues obtained be used to fund various social justice projects (as opposed to being used as a form of general revenue). To my knowledge, no government has explicitly implemented a transaction tax for this purpose. However, as I mentioned above, calls for this arenā€™t new. Moreover, there is nothing stopping any government with such a tax already in place from using the revenue for funding social causes (or from implementing any sort of tax, financial transaction or otherwise, explicitly for the purpose of funding social causes).
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robin hood site itself rather than secondary sources like independent news papers. The campaign has lost much of its high level support for now, and it looks like opinion among decision makers has generally swung in a deflationary direction. But this cannot possibly last for more than 3 ā€“ 4 years considering the massive levels of public debt and the increasing ineffectiveness of anti progressive propaganda. When events swing back in a pleasing direction they'll move with some force. Keep the faith!
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if they cant increase tax revenues this means cutting public spending that hundreds of millions of low income families rely on. Together with the current popular mood against banks, its hardly suprising that most of the quality sources have adopted a positive tone when covering this campaign. Some of us may feel its undesireable for the wealthy to have to forfeit wealth to help the poor, but as editors our job is not to push our own POVs but to neautrally reflect whats being said in the sources.
1450:. Whoever started the article, and for what reason, really doesn't matter now. This topic is clearly notable on its own merits, is deserving of an article, has masses of coverage from reliable sources. The COI issues have been addressed by simple editing, which is how they should be fixed - COI isn't a reason for deletion on its own, it merely warns us that a)the subject might not be notable and b)to be alert to any bias in the article. Neither of these apply in this case. Definite keep for me. 1394:.I'm sure people will be able to think of other examples. Nothing here so far appears to gives any well reasoned argument as to why we should have one article on the financial transaction tax but no article about one of the social phenomenons to arise from it. Rather it is just the same old rhetoric repeated over and over in different ways. (If anyone wants to look for articles that are really worth taking to AfD one needs to look no further than the north American eating places. E.g., 271:. I believe the article is advertising for a political cause, tied in with a high budget publicity campaign involving a big-budget video. I also believe the article was written by a staff member of Oxfam, which is behind the publicity campaign. For a chronology, see my talk page, which cites specific users involved, including the original author who admits to interning at Oxfam and learning to use Knowledge to promote their causes. Also, I believe the articles 1472:: This is not a question of support vs. opposition for a Robin Hood Tax. It is a question of whether or not Knowledge should be allowed to be used as part of a marketing campaign (the original article had links to the campaign website, Facebook, Twitter, Flickr, and Youtube!). I believe strongly that Knowledge should be a neutral place for the compilation of human knowledge and I donā€™t like to see it used in the fashion that Oxfam has done. 1264:: The speedy deletion comment is not relevant any longer. As I stated on your talk page, I believe that I might have used the incorrect process for deletion. I am not familiar with how it is supposed to work so I simply went with the instructions that were easiest to understand which just happened to be the speedy deletion process (since it only involves inserting a single tag, versus the various hoops required for the process here). 847:. Whether or not these are recycled press releases (very common for the press these days) is probably irrelevant as a number of high profile titles have decided that this organisation is notable and of enough interest to run the story. It doesn't even particularly appear that titles running the stories are isolated to those you would expect to be sympathetic to the cause (such as the Left of Centre 428:. Nevertheless it is a legitimate topic for an encyclopedia. Just because it is unclear, doesn't mean that society doesn't treat it as a phenomenon. The fact that it is a societal phenomenon means that it deserves a place in an encyclopedia which records societal phenomenon. Here are other examples of unclear phenomena which are unclear, but which deserve an entry in an encyclopedia: 1366:
now appears nothing to lead me to believe that there was any attempt to mislead. So, now that we know, there is no longer any need for the COI tag. Also, now that we know, interested editors can bring the article towards WP standards. WP articles are always considered to be ā€œwork in progressā€ even when locked, so it would also be wrong to judge it as it is now.
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Seeing as how Oxfam is one of the organizations behind this campaign, this is clearly a case of a group creating a Knowledge article for its own promotional reasons and is a violation of policy (for example, ā€œThose promoting causes or events, or issuing public service announcements, even if noncommercial, should use a forum other than Knowledge to do soā€ under
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unreliable as to this item, even though the overall newspaper may remain reliable. Most of the other secondary sources use wording taken directly from the RHT website and press releases. That's hardly reliable either, just data laundering. Note that my vote is strongly DELETE (in spite of what the statistics are saying).
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outright insults into sarcasm. I don't want to drag this out any longer with you so I am dropping the matter. I will conclude simply by pointing out that it doesn't hurt to apologize when you have caused someone else offense and even to err on the side of caution if in doubt, particularly in a medium
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This is not my preferred approach as I donā€™t like being forced to clean up Oxfamā€™s mess and it sets a bad example for Knowledge. In particular, there is nothing to stop any other group from creating an article for whatever political reason, knowing that as long as they can keep the article alive long
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As for implementation, there has been a mixture of motivations. Some governments have implemented it for the purpose of generating revenue; others for the purpose of managing the volatility of their currency. What could be seen as different about a Robin Hood type tax is the explicit requirement that
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to remember that it is an error of reasoning to judge the virtue of something by its source (which I think belongs to the class of General Fallacies). As has been repeated here and in past years -many useful/informative/etc articles were started off by knowledgeable insiders . In this case, there
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Now, it may so happen that there is sufficient press coverage to warrant some mention somewhere on Knowledge. However, the proper place for this is in a subsection of the financial transactions tax article. The analogous situation in my silly thought experiment would be making note of my Really Small
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Totaly agree. I'd hope most who can spare a few hours reading the sources would agree that if anything the article is unbalanced in having too much criticism. The global context for this tax is a world where G20 goverments have just agreed on ambitous medium term targets for deficit reduction, and
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Iā€™m also starting to really enjoy getting to know all the people Iā€™m working with. Today I had lunch with one of the members of my department who I didnā€™t know very well, but she saw me sitting by myself and asked me to join her and her companions. I had a really pleasant lunch and learned a bit more
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Note: if you spend millions of Ā£, you can create a "social phenomenon", as Oxfam has done. That does NOT make it notable. The secondary sources on the RHT article are tainted: one (McQuaig article) appeared in the Toronto online paper BEFORE the news being covered happened. That makes the source
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Furthermore, why do you feel the need to label my efforts mindless? I began by writing up some comments with my concerns (under Original Comments above). I then took the time to write summary versions of these comments to place on the talk pages of some of the original responders, one of whom posted
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I didnt say you specifically accused Boyd and Melanie of colluding, sorry if it came across like that. I didnt even think the specific allegation of collusion against myself needed refuting. My post on Melanies page was just in case shed feel discouraged by the criticism of her original work, which
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Having read scores of whole sources on this if anything our article is biased against the tax. We'd arguably being doing the campaign a favour if we deleted the article, as we have far more criticism than the vast majority of soruces, most of which are very favourable. True the article was started
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The other completely awesome thing Iā€™m doing is learning to use Knowledge, so that I can write articles and edit the Oxfam related pages. This pretty much feeds all the ā€˜things Melanie loves to do channelsā€™ ā€“ reading, writing, researching, learning new things, being on the internet etc, so itā€™s been
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Hi, just wanted to apologise in case youre still watching the Robin Hood Tax article you created and feel Ive gone overboard in compromising with the objectors. Your original article was very well written and informative, but it didnt meet all our guidelines, mainly as it was sourced largely to the
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What this means is that the present version of the article should not exist at all. It should not have been allowed to come this far and should have been deleted immediately upon creation. I feel it is an abuse of Knowledge to allow any group (Oxfam or otherwise) to create a promotional article and
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There is no doubt whatever that the original version of the article was written with the intention of being promotional. However, we are not here to assess either the original version of the article or the motives of its authors. We are here to assess firstly the present version of the article, and
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created the article on Knowledge on March 18, 2010. This was followed by 9 edits on March 22, 2010 by an IP address (193.133.69.201) that belongs to Oxfam UK. Examining the original article clearly indicates that it took all of its source material verbatim from the site for the Robin Hood campaign.
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Iā€™m doing the communications with some activists which Oxfam trained at a program called ā€˜Changeā€™ and the evaluation for the event itself. As well as being really good training for me jobwise, doing this is amazingly encouraging. Iā€™m in prime position to hear about all the awesome things these guys
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I thus believe the best approach here, particularly when it comes to maintaining Knowledge integrity, is to fold the material from this article into the financial transaction tax article. However, having said all this, if everyone is hell-bent on keeping this article, then I can offer a compromise
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Let's consider a facetious thought experiment. Imagine I run a group aimed at promoting physics education in high schools. I start a new campaign called "Really Small Things" with the aim of establishing programs to teach subatomic physics to high school students. I then create a Knowledge article
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Since all of the category #1 material is covered in other articles, the only remaining material is from category #2, which is inappropriate for an article. Moreover, Knowledge editors are not unpaid lackeys for Oxfam. It is not our job to rewrite their articles for them. Therefore, this article is
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If a Robin Hood tax (i.e. a FTT explicitly meant to fund social programs) is to be considered as a proper subset of financial transaction taxes, then this article must be rewritten at a greater level of generality and cannot focus on the efforts of any one particular campaign or group. That means
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While this has been a high quality debate, it would be good to see some sources to support the anti RHT position. If for example the campaign has somehow coerced almost every single British quality newspaper to write an advertisement in the guise of regular journalism, surely some investigative
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But if it is deleted as an independent article, then what frightens me now is the prospect of being obligated to somehow incorporate it into the Tobin tax article which is already too long. That "obligation" would come from the fact that it has received enough press to qualify to be in Knowledge
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The solution you propose is one that can be introduced by simple editing. As to the idea of other groups being able to start a campaign om wikipedia, this would only bear fruit if that topic had a notability. The Robin Hood Tax has clearly generated enough coverage on its ow merit to warrant an
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CosmicCube, as per quality sources in the article, RHT has been supported by around 350 economists including several from the first rank like Joseph Stiglitz and Jeffery Sachs. Leading politicians supporting the tax include Angela Merkel , Nicolas Sarkozy and Katsuya Okada, Japan's foreign
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and others), replacing references to ā€œthe campaignā€ with ā€œa campaignā€, etc. This will put the article on the same status level as other special kinds of financial transaction taxes such as the Tobin tax (anti-speculation/volatility reduction tax) and Spahn tax (protection against currency
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By analogy to your "Really Small Things" campaign , if RST had received backing from top physicists, eductors and Industrialists from sectors which apply sub atomic physics then yes wed likely have an article on it. Beacause like RHT the campaign would have massive coverage in quality
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Now that I have read through it, the original article does just seem like inexperienced article creation ā€“ so I will take my COI tag back off. A point that no one appears to have made yet, is that deleting this up-dated article as it now stands by wiki- lawyering would increase
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That lack of consensus is even more reason for me to want to keep as much material as possible separate from the Tobin tax article. That way I don't have to face another huge discussion on how to subdivide the Tobin tax article.... (...nor a discussion on how to subdivide the
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then expect the rest of us to work as unpaid labor on their article by bringing it up to encyclopedic standards, particularly when the substantive material is already covered by other articles. That merely relegates us to the role of doing their promotional work for them.
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primarily to raise revenue like RHT. Another difference is most of the other taxes have been decided on behind close doors and not campaigned for by a vast coalition of civil society actors. A 3rd is most transaction taxes have never been intended for global
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about her work. There are loads of other people who I chat too in passing. Actually, thereā€™s no one Iā€™ve met so far who I wouldnā€™t be very happy to chat to or have lunch with. Everyoneā€™s talented, interesting and ethically minded. Itā€™s a great place to work.
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are doing and all the great societies that are campaigning for really worthwhile causes. Itā€™s been proving to me that all the little things do matter ā€“ that signing petitions or making small changes in your lifestyle really can make a difference. Love it.
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If there is bias, then I suggest marking it with tags (specific to the section in which the bias occurs). But the existence of bias is no reason to delete an entire article which is receiving the necessary coverage from reliable secondary sources.
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enough, the Knowledge community will step in as unpaid labor for them and clean up their articles. However, if everyone else is determined to keep the article, I think this is a compromise that addresses the concerns expressed by the others.
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Long comment for the benefit of Cosmic Cube and OldTaxGuy, both fairly new editors who seem to have misunderstood how our guidelines apply to this sort of article, allbeit they have good motivations in wanting to protect the encylopedia.
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If the article was irredeemably marketing material, and there was no prospect of writing an article without it, then deletion would be appropriate. However, as previously noted, the article is no longer unambiguous marketing material.
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The RHT tax is very much a special type of transaction tax. Many other types of transaction tax, both theorectical and those that have actually been implemented have been designed to reduce volatility or throughput of transactions and
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minister. From the financial sector, support has been forthcoming by prominent figures including George Soros, Warren Buffett and Lord Turner. There are many more equally impressive A listers that could be mentioned.
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The nomination and subsequent discussion are incoherent and we have better things to do than make sense of this gibberish. In so far as there seems to be a problem, it can be addressed by normal editing and so, per
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who is (or was) an intern for Oxfam. Please note that I am not violating any policies regarding outing as she is the one who willing revealed her own identity by publishing a link to her own blog on her user page
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Iā€™ve now been interning for Oxfam for 3 weeks (or 3 sets of 3 days if youā€™re being pernickety) and itā€™s fast becoming a lot of fun. Iā€™m doing 3 projects for them, all of which are cool in their own way.
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However when Robin Hood tax (RHT) appeared as a separate article, I did not object because this satisfied my desire to keep the Tobin tax article under the maximum size required by Knowledge policy.
1335:: An intern for an advocacy group starts up a promotional article as part of her duties. That is a pretty clear case of conflict of interest. I don't know what else I can say to make that clearer. 1058:: I am not entirely sure what this comment means. If you are referring to the fact that this issue is a social phenomenon of some note, then this has some merit. I will say more about that below. 233:
Certainly not unambiguously promotional: in fact the article discusses possible disadvantages at some length. Previously Cosmic Cube tagged the article for speedy deletion, citing similarity to
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that summary here. I then proceeded to reply to the comments of each person who gave me feedback. In short, I have treated everyone here with respect. I would expect the same courtesy from you.
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1. "Robin Hood tax" is just a marketing name for a call for a financial transactions tax by various organizations (such as Oxfam, the group responsible for writing the original version of the
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What a page looked like in the past can't be an argument to delete. If we deleted articles on what their first edit looked like, 90% of the articles on Knowledge would disappear overnight.
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I have had extensive discussion with the editors of Tobin tax on how subdivide it to reduce its size. But these discussions ended without a clear consensus (so far). See those discussions
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At any rate, I don't know why most other editors don't seem to be bothered by issues of Knowledge integrity. Whatever the reason, I have suggested a compromise above in the response to
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There is nothing new about calls for a Robin Hood tax besides the marketing name and glossy campaigning. There have been proposals going back over 10 years for such taxes (such as by
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by which North American marketing campaigns alone appear to be immune from AfD's on WP. At least I can't remember one that's been deleted. IMHO this should never have been AfD'ed.--
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2. In the interim, I have thought about the issue of dividing the Tobin tax article and I think we could split it into two sections: economic and political.
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But if that "somewhere" ends up being the Tobin tax article then I will strongly object on the grounds that the Tobin tax article is already too long.
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My desire for clarity in the Tobin tax article was still satisfied because the RHT article was independent and outside the Tobin tax article.
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article). As such, there is no need for it to have an independent article. Any material that is non-promotional fits into the scope of the
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If you have nothing further to contribute to this discussion other than insults, then please refrain from any further participation. See
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In the last four and a half months RHT has received a lot of press coverage, and therefore deserves to be a encyclopedia article.
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page, there was a suggestion that there be a new section of the Tobin tax article which would deal with the "Robin Hood tax."
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This non sequitur has already been addressed -why parrot on mindlessly? Why do you think mere repetition adds weight.--
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As you can see in that discussion, for reasons of clarity, and for reasons of article length, I objected to an unclear
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are related parts of the same campaign. Note: not all editors of these articles are necessarily part of the "cause".
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getting rid of any remaining promotional material. It also means including material on previous such campaigns (by
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states that "In general, notability is measured by whether the topic has received significant coverage in reliable
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There is not much point in attempting to rewrite this article. The material will fall into one of two categories:
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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called ā€œReally Small Thingsā€ where I proceed to discuss exactly the same material covered in the article on
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of the material on Oxfam's "Robin Hood tax" should be removed as advertising, and the rest merged into
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while there is some overlap with other articles, this is in the same way that say our article on the
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for his extensive work on this. I would like to summarize his lengthy findings and add a few points:
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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article, which, incidentally may soon grow to be just as large as the Tobin tax article.)
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to readers, I was satisfied. (Notice how I did not do much work on the RHT article.)
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issue that Knowledge should not be considered as part of their marketing campaigns.
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I appreciate your feedback and will follow up on your other comments shortly.
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for example, is firmly in the right of centre camp (often nicknamed the
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article. Its notable, it should stay, regardless of other concerns
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