802:. There are important omissions and facts that are false in the pre-AfD'd article (and in the present version). Heck, for all I know the author of the article also happens to be named "Rory Conroy" and is doing his damndest to pass himself off as the more famous Ruaidhri. You say that my referring to sockpuppets when a bunch of first-time users and anonymous IPs unanimously vote to keep an article demeans my other points. I could have called you anything I want but it wouldn't change the reality that my points are
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431:. Whoever's putting up all this stuff is infecting other articles with the nonsense, too: e.g., having collaborate on an album after Cash's death. (Also notable is that the pages of Cash, , and reference Conroy's supposed band, "Centipede on the Roof" even though that name is not mentioned in the main articleâ it's obviously being made up as it goes).
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771:"Seamus" which is Irish for James, we in ireland live in a multi lingual society I can (and do) use both names, perhaps this should be editted and the name chaned from Rory to "Ruaidhri". To the other users I'm sorry that I havent eddited other posts, I'm new to the community, but were we not all new once?? Respectfully ---
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Ok Lord bob, we will have to leave it at that, i have never said anything other than I know he is an actor, i'm not that well informed on his musical career etc, I do know he is an actor, thats all. I cant answer for the person who worte the article in its past or present form because I dont know who
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December 2004 nor appeared in Ireland all of that year. If you could actually verify all of those things, my argument would collapse utterly. But you can't. That's why you haven't, despite repeated calls from different editors to do so. That's why the only way you can
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that could be disproved very easily if the article were actually true. A reference on the ESF's website to Conroy's award. Known and documented pseudonyms that he also performs and writes under, so as to explain the discrepancies in the claimed and his actual credits. Something on his martial arts
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I don't know who wrote this, but his 'associations' with Keira
Knightly amounted to them both attending a charity function in Co Down a few months ago. Rory Conroy is a real person who WAS a physicist, but it seems like a fan may have gotten a bit over enthusiastic. Since I have the interview with
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You were doing so well Lord Bob until your last point, insulting people by calling them socket puppets demeans all your other points, the source of the pictures has hard to verify, people can wear glasses and dye hair for roles etc. I think that you are confused by the use of irish names, my name
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Ruaidhri, is credited. IMDB does not list a "Batchelor's Walk", however, "Bachelor's Walk" is listed as an Irish
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His life seems really incredible if it's true. I would be cautious however in deleting this. The article does say he's not well known outside of
Ireland, so his album may not be on general release. Consortiums can also be small groups rather than large international ones. I am also concerned that
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A Google search on "centipede on the roof" returned no documents, and there is no entry in allmusic.com for Rory Conroy, Ruaidhri Conroy, or
Centipede on the Roof. If this band is so obscure that it doesn't appear anywhere on the Internet at all, I don't think the article meets the standard for
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Rory is really famous in
Ireland. He has appeared on a lot of t.v. shows on Irish television. His face is known to all. His band are less well known in Ireland, but that's not his profession. He was on a late-night talk show recently and told the incredible story of his life. As a fluent Irish
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Ruaidhri is Irish for Rory, and that Ruaidhri Conroy is an actor, which seems to be your main bone of contention despite my addressing other
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I saw him on Irish TV last night (11 Sept 05)FFS! I cant understand the whole "its not on the internet so it must not be true" attitute of some people. What did you do before the internet??I cant remeber the physics stuff, but i never did care much for him as an actor, personally i think he
698:"Rory Conroy", as an actor by that name, is not known to exist. As a physicist or Irish historian, he has no articles or textbooks in university libraries that a number of Wikipedians, including myself, have been able to find. As a martial arts master, his achievements cannot be verified.
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Apologies CH, I was refering to the book containing his paper on sexuality in ancient
Ireland. This was published in 'New agendas in Irish prehistory : papers in commemoration of Liz Anderson / edited by Angela Desmond ... in 2000. I don't know about his physics background
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Ruaidhri Conroy is a real actor; you can find him on IMDB and google. However, no one has given any proof that
Ruaidhri Conroy is in fact the same person as Rory ConroyâI havenât seen information that would indicate that Ruaidhri has gone by the name "Rory."
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Rory Conroy is a well-known figure within Ireland. Amongst many other things he IS the singer with Centipede On The Roof, a popular band in Ireland. He has featured in many magazines, radio and television programmes to say the
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More assertions without facts. And yet another user with no contribution history. Until someone demonstrates that 1) Rory Conroy is Ruaidhri Conroy and 2) that even half of the stuff in this article is valid, I still say
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Rory Conroy's life is bizarre and reads like a fictional tale to anyone outside Ireland, but folks it's all true. Just because Google etc. haven't verified these points it doesn't nullify them. Keep as is.
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This is a real actor, just because he is not american he is not worthy of a mention?? My advice, my american friends is to get a passport and look at the world, rather than viewing it through the internet
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I saw this man during my visit to Ireland. He was in a play that we saw at the Abbey theatre. Very good too. I don't understand why you want to delete the page, I thought he was well known in Ireland?.
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Centipede on the Roof are a reality. Ask anyone from Ireland who has their finger on the pulse. Granted they're not U2, but their level of fame is rising and will be big news one day. |
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Still, nothing conclusive though. I can say however that A Rory Conroy did write an article on sexuality in eary Ireland. I have given the book details above. Hope this helps.
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I've never in my life seen so many sockpuppets come out for something so insignificant. It's never once happened in all my days. I mean, you'd think we'd AfD'd
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Mr. Conroy is listed as a recipient of the "Best Young European Physicist of the Year" award. No such award is mentioned on Google. The awarding body is the
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considerable surprise, it actually seems to be!), then why why why wasn't his actual freakin' name mentioned in the article?!? He's credited under Ruaidhri
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He must be real. I had to use his book during the presintation of my thesis. It was exactly as described. I can't vouch for the other information though.
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What book, Jester? I can't find any books by a Rory Conroy in my unis' library or on Amazon. And I can't find any eprints by Rory Conroy on the
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Thank you, Keithlaw, for saying about what I'd say so I don't have to. Well, except for this reply that says 'thank you'. But it doesn't count.
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did it. I came across this by accident (email actually) however i havent been spamming this site, as my ip address will show. Keep Safe ---
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