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inadvertently misrepresented things if you wish -- items like "such-and-such bands have joined the festival" and "the festival is now dead." The former is utterly routine, and the latter is...well, it's not routine, but I (personally) feel like I have to discount one or two articles announcing that the festival is no longer. Beyond that, the sourcing seems plainly local in scope. Many festivals get local press for drawing a prominent act or two. Many festivals get local press for shutting down. I'd personally think a notable festival would draw non-local press of an ongoing, significant nature that truly covers the festival itself, and not simply performance announcements and such.
362:...surprised because, given the caliber of acts present, I'm pretty surprised I can't find more sources. The only reliably sourced coverage I am seeing is already in the article, and it's an article about how the 2011 Downtown Live didn't happen. It actually appears that this annual event is no longer, not that that has any real bearing on the discussion. But...in lieu of proper sourcing, I think this has to be a delete. 1012:
I'm with Ginsengbomb: I'm kind of surprised that for something with such big-name acts, better sourcing doesn't seem to exist. But we've looked and found nothing besides some 'so-and-so will appear' listings and a couple of short pieces saying it was ending and not much else. If there was any thing
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Additional sourcing has been found, so I've revisited my opinion here. I still think this should be deleted. It's very plainly not a slam dunk case. The sourcing that has been discovered is largely of incidental nature, however. It's mostly -- and I'm completely paraphrasing here, so assume that I've
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they certainly have plenty of big-name acts, which would suggest (though I guess not prove) a degree of notability. Is the 70,000 visitors the total across all the 35 concerts? If so, that would mean an average of 2000 people each, which isn't really much: we'd probably (quite rightly) delete an
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Not necessarily. A Saginaw radio station does a free concert and has done so for years. It gets big names and draws 90,000+ people each year. And yet the only coverage I've ever seen of it is in the Saginaw and Bay City newspapers.
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If its a free concert which has famous bands at it, wouldn't it get ample attendance and coverage? Google news archive doesn't include all news sources, but still, its should have more than it does if this information is true.
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Often the references for a topic like this are mere notices, but a quick check of the references in the articles shows they prove notability . When a series of events warrants articles on its closure, it was notable .
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The NBC source is still fluffy and promotional, doing nothing but listing off acts that will be there. It uses slang like "booked a string of pretty washed up artists" and an improper semicolon, too.
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anime or sci-fi convention with similar average attendence. So I'm split: big-name acts but (apparently) unimpressive attendence. Neutral until I see what kind of sources show up.
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argument that 70,000 visitors = notability. However, I could only find press releases and trivial mentions ("Artist X is performing at Raleigh Downtown Live").
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the local NBC station. And newsobserver seems to be a reliable site. All things considered, I say its notable enough to have a Knowledge (XXG) article.
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per nom. Some of the sources suggested above are blogs etc. A mention (currently not present) at
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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article. Perhaps these two articles could be mergeable into one. Here's the sources:
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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A news source currently in the Raleigh Downtown Live article:
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