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poor coverage at Knowledge (XXG) - too few Wikipedians are actively involved in editing pages and way too few readers from Ontario are paying attention when the elections are only two weeks away. This could have been a golden opportunity to change the mindset of some Canadians about Knowledge (XXG), if only...
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I'm referring to the entire guideline; I quoted the second bulleted paragraph under "Invalid criteria", not the first. The "Common outcomes" page is inactive and retained only for historical reference. Consensus on notability has shifted in the eight years since the discussion you're referring to, as
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columnist way before he decided to run for office. Why there is not an existing article about him here is anyone’s guess. As Wikipedians I believe we all have a common goal of promoting Knowledge (XXG), but how will we do it if we are turning off a very large audience by declaring that their people
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Knowledge (XXG) is not for electioneering? Why not? I personally believe elections are an important part of democracy which cannot exist without free access to information – and what better way to get unbiased information than at Knowledge (XXG)? As it stands the Ontario elections are getting very
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All coverage that I could find in independent sources was basic news reporting on his candidacy. Per WP:POLITICIAN, merely being a candidate does not imply that the person is notable enough to merit an article. I did not compare the subjects coverage to other people in the election; we use external
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Ottawahitech, your talk page shows that you've been concerned about how comprehensively Ottawa elections are covered for at least four years. Some things haven't changed in that time - Knowledge (XXG) is still not a news site and still requires other sources to cover a person or event first.
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I am still confused about why everyone here seems to think that Randall Denley is not a notable person. If you take the time to click on the links, conveniently located on the top of this page, you will see the
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then I do not see the relevance to Randall Denley. He is not famous/infamous because he is related to someone else, nor is he part of the adult film industry. Also is this of interest
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Wikinews may be a better place for you to improve the coverage of these elections, which understandably don't get a whole lot of reliable coverage outside of the province itself.--
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since there doesn't appear to be a PC candidate page for this election. This candidate does not warrant an article based on this reason alone. Other attributes are non-notable.
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I am astounded that no one from Ottawa has come to Mr. Denley's defence. Not notable? Just about any Ottawan would disagree. Randall Denley was well-known as an
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for almost 20 years. I don't believe he would have lasted this long in this major newpaper if people did not think that he was an excellent journalist.
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Tens of thousands of google hits are not significant when considering notability at Knowledge (XXG)? So what does?
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Are you saying that any subject that meets Knowledge (XXG)'s notability guidelines has a page on Knowledge (XXG)?
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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evidenced by the links I've provided specifically refuting the argument that Google hits impute notability.
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So my question is: how many links does it take to make a person notable enough for Knowledge (XXG)?
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Being well known in Ottawa might make him notable, but it doesn't have to. Do any of the criteria at
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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scales to judge notability rather than comparing an article to
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someone thinks the article's existence furthers a worthy goal
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Just curious how you went about determining that coverage in
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are not notable enough to be included in Knowledge (XXG)?
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