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the Seals says they'll be testing the system--there's no documentation that they're using it. JJL, on the talk page you said it's covered in Black Belt magazine. I went to the magazine's web site and searched unsuccessfully for an article on either this system or Paul Vunak, but I admit that's not necessarily conclusive. Vunak's DVDs and books are obviously not independent sources. An independent article on this system, combined with the letters I read, could convince me to support keeping this article.
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This article seems closely tied to the one on Paul Vunak--it seems like they're either both notable or both NN. The letters of appreciation on the subject's home page are nice, but I'd like to see some 3rd party coverage. Even the letters aren't completely convincing. For example, the letter from
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A Google search seems to suggest that the Black Belt Magazine article about Vunak was April 2006 - not sure if anyone has accessible archives going far enough back - anyone know a library that could provide access? If that's the only independent source available then it's probably not notable
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due to non-notability. There are no URLs with ".gov" in them that reference Paul Vunak. And per JJL's previous comments on the talk page: Anybody can make a claim about teaching something to Navy Seals, and it may technically be true. I can personally make claims that I've trained to become a
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Actually, I believe the cover was April 2008. I haven't read the article, which is apparently titled "The Only Weapon Technique You'll Ever Need". The website (
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misleading. The only source for the Wiki article in question is to Paul Vunak's page itself. Delete with prejudice.
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to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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i would change my mind if i saw an article talk about it
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