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mention her TV roles seem only to recount those roles -- there isn't any suggestion that the subject has contributed "significance." The articles in her hometown newspaper are rather chatty, anecdotes that again, don't speak to significance. Taken as a whole, the sources suggest that her career has been more aspirational than actual. Frankly, that the article now includes the subject as having received "Woman of the Week" from a Sportsbra manufacturer is somewhat disingenuous.
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runs against existing consensus, as it does not matter per that guideline if she had 2 significant appearances in a notable series or 200, as long as the appearances in notable productions were significant enough for them to be written about in multiple reliable sources (and no, such write-ups do not
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We happen to be building "the consensus" on this article, right here, on whether this subject meets notability requirements. Appearances on television do not equate to notability. The sources that note the subjects appearances hardly detail her roles – as is required. Most of the sources for her
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Use of hyperlinks in discussion is per such converntions. It is not circular reasoning to point out that the television series have already met notability standards elsewhere within Knowledge (XXG). I do not have to rebuild and source those articles for you here in order to show you the notability
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With no disrespect to the subject of the article, are we equating mere mention in a reliable source with significance? Or aren't we looking for good sources that actually support that the subject of the article contributed significance? The articles (two which appear in prominent newspapers) that
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film. And you may be reading between the lines (and enjoying the use of hyperlinks that don't actually support the text you pipe from here) as well as using circular arguments: the subject is significant because the subject is significant. Nothing in the guidelines says that if a person has X
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Note that along with much of the information in the article, the number of episode appearances isn't sourced, nor is the ultra-short film "Nice Pants". How could information like that even get into an article unless its put there by someone promoting the subject of the article? A quick google
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have to be the main foucus of the articles). And her record of being in those films and television shows may be directly verified in the onscreen credits of the film or television show itself, without me having to offer links to copies of such... but here, go watch the
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number of appearances on television they become notable. What the article needs is a reliable source that explicitly gives support to the significance of the subject. I have yet to see that... unless we're talking about the
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that she was in it, and such was offered. I never stated that it was some major studio blockbuster. ENT does not mandate that all her productions be notable or appearances significant... only that some be so... and ENT is
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Forgive me if I'm skeptical of someone who arrives on Knowledge (XXG) and 127 edits later is rendering a strong opinion in what would have to be a fairly obscure type of discussion on a fairly obscure topic. Wow.
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she appeared, without any detail of her role, her acting, her awards, etc. The "Nice Pants" appears to have been more of a video than a film... having received about 1500 hits per year in ten years.
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and the discussion is listed in a location where it could have caught even a newcomer's eye. In an encyclopedia anyone can edit, even a 4-week newcomer is allowed to voice an opinion at AFD.
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Coverage or "appearance" does not equal notability; it's a logical mistake to conflate the two. In the meantime, there is no reliable source coverage apparently that suggests anything
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what the subject of the article has done in her appearances. The coverage notes her appearances while failing to suggest those appearances mattered.
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So 36 appearances on televsion equals notibility? No... significance equals notiblity. Nothing in thos appearances actually suggest significance.
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beginning in 1992 as a youth record holder and leading up to now for her other activities. Her also meeting ENT is simply icng on the cake.
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that might be considered. We use various applicable guidelines in determing an individual's notability, and consensus is not just a
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Both surprising and quite rare for a child weight-lift champion turned personal trainer turned actress. Not a one-trick pony.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The article has been signifcantly updated, more carefully written, and certainly more adequately sourced.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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of heads. We can also discuss whether the individual's coverage since 1992 shows her being
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Does not matter that she lost, as its the coverage that matters. And 23 episodes of a
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Is no longer unsourced, and more being added. The individual meets notability through
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articles, we do not have just "mere" mentions. And "aspirational"?? 13 episodes of
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Unsourced BLP, dubious notability. Another editor tried to AFD but didn't finish.
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network. That does not add up to several major supporting roles as an actress.
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dedicated to accurate reporting of information on actors and film, does indeed
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I think there is sufficient coverage here to establish notability.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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the sole criteria that may be used in our consideration... only
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found by others elsewhere. And please, your interpretation of
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