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863:: Let the lead editor complete the article, and over a period of time POVs and such issues shall get resolved. The subject matter is central to the Indian ethos and culture, and thus notable to have a place here - it should not be "gassed" as few persons may not like this reality. We have pages and pages on the characters of computer games, why can not we have a page which deals with a central and pertinent theme (in existence for centuries) of Indian society and culture? People should know that the subcontinent of India never followed one religion, and people mostly lived/ are living with religious harmony. --
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The article is talking about religious harmony. The article is not "fancruft". People stating there is no religious harmony in India are not worth arguing. If people are not stating that, then where is the advancement of the "editor's position"? This is not "editor's position", this is truth and the
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The article I am working on is going to be rather long with many relevant sections, I do not know how it will accomodate in any other single article which is already long enough.
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