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article. If I recall correctly, articles about future ships are not usually done before we are sure that the ship will be built (building contract, keel laying etc.), but the Palmer project has gathered quite a lot of publicity, which I think is enough to justify to current article (not to mention
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proposal out there (article long deleted) although it exists as a web site and a pipe dream as its organizers have no real plan to raise the $ 1B USD to bring it to completion. I'll grant you that Palmer has the financial means and has shown some detail as to the new ship's general arrangements.
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The article originally covered a project to produce a replica Titanic which started in 1998, and terminated in 2006. In 2012, a new project was started, and details of this were incorporated in to the article, changing it to a general overview of the 'replica Titanic' concept. This has now been
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There are still compromises that must be made to meet SOLAS reqirements. (Lifeboat height and use of interior wood are two things that immediately come to mind.) If he has to make too many compromises he too may abandon the project. Therefore, I conclude that while all of these
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The second section (2012 project) is a summary of the main article, so does not contribute to the usefulness of this page. The remaining information all pertains to the previous project. I believe this does not warrant a full article for the following reasons:
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contains a summary of the 1998-2006 project, and includes the acceptable quality references from this page. I believe this is sufficient coverage of the article, making the original redundant as per
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The article has been through several iterations over two years, and has not yet produced a stable, encyclopaedic article. I believe the most appropriate course of action is deletion.
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This page has been proposed for deletion in the past, and it was decided to be kept. However, I believe the situation has substantially changed.
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The present project is far more notable than the one covered by the article up for deletion, which was abandoned years ago.
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proposal remains to be just that - a proposal. Gous abandoned his proposed rebuild and there is still the
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requirements for inclusion none has advanced to the point where one justifies a stand-alone article.
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in some form continue to gain worldwide press coverage and just don't go away; they therefore meet
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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already covers the subject in depth appropriate for that page. What would a merger achieve?
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The subject of the article is covered in appropriate detail elsewhere on Knowledge (XXG)
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as per nomination. If there is anything of importance, it can be included in the
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could be under construction within months. You're proposing we delete
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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