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522:. Could the deletion-nominator please remind us of an alternative treatment possible, which was the result implemented in several similar AFDs. I have seen other AFDs about London embassies, and have seen several of them conclude with move or redirect to some obvious target, but I forget what that is. Perhaps there is a standard type of article on the nation-to-nation relationship, which has not always been created, but is obviously a keeper, and this should be moved/redirected to that. It seems inefficient for new AFD editors to have to consider this kind of issue again and again, without guidance. I'm sorry I can't remember the specifics just now. -- 798:
article. This is best way to resolve the AFD easily, without deleting contribution(s), without offending contributor(s), and leading to more productive development. IMHO the AFD is not needed; it would have been possible to simply make the move and develop a bit, without imposing costs of AFD (possible offense to contributors, use/waste of AFD editors' attention, etc.). Hope this helps. --
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people couldn't even be bothered contributing to the discussion, even when pinged to reconsider previous opinions. I'll support a redirection/merger once that target article exists. Until then, this doesn't meet our inclusion criteria and should be deleted as no genuine alternative to deletion exists.
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That's fine and I'd be happy with that solution once that article is created. So many of these ended as no consensus because they deserved to be deleted but nobody could be bothered to create the articles to redirect them to. I created a couple of them and still the AFDs ended as no consensus because
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and then the embassy article would be a redirect to that and the embassy could be mentioned, or not. If/when the embassy is itself found to be more individually notable, say for occupying some historic building or having some important event there, then re-develop the redirect into a separate
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as examples. I was frustrated that articles for non-notable embassies had been created while articles about notable relations remained redlinks. I don't support keeping these unless those articles are created - feel free to do so and I'll happily support your suggestion.
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of that territory isn't notable. What has been suggested is that a nondescript office representing that Government in another country isn't inherently notable. Like everything else, it needs to meet
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The alternative to a couple of the others was that I created bilateral relations articles and they were redirected there. In other cases, others have created them. I created
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fails WP:ORG. this does not even have embassy or consulate status. And it is only an office within the building pictured not the whole building. Also nominating:
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I believe the official government of a British overseas territory is notable. Other non-sovereign representations, such as the
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both - neither is a notable building, institution or organisation given that neither meets our inclusion criteria.
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or any other okay name for the bilateral relations and develop a little bit, e.g. perhaps from
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or merge to the standard type of article that has resolved many similar London embassy AFDs. --
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closing after collegial discussion and equally bold redirect made any further discussion moot (
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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have articles here. I don't see why this should be an exception. --
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this google book about Montserrat and England dynamics of culture
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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this source about Montserrat and United Kingdom relations
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Saint Vincent and the Grenadines–United Kingdom relations
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and in this case doesn't. Did you even read the article?
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list of Bilateral relations-related deletion discussions
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Thanks. Okay then with this AFD, move the article to
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And... what? Nobody (nobody at all) is suggesting the
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