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425:. "Unreleased" is a reference back to bootlegs, demos, etc., not to scheduled upcoming releases, hence the use of a semi-colon in that sentence. Pointing out tense problems in the infobox is a non-argument; the box is not dynamically created and cannot be easily changed. The allowance for future albums has been 173:
Article does not demonstrate substantial coverage in reliable sources. The artist is certainly notable, but this is about the unreleased album. If/when it is released it will easily pass notability. At the moment, it does not. (Incidentally, please restrict your comments to the topic.) -
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It doesn't have to. All it has to do is confirm that the album exists and will be released. The fact that it's a release by a notable artist establishes notability. It's not "unreleased", it's 'scheduled for release at a future date'. "Unreleased" refers to albums like
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problems and adding a usage note to the template in that regard. The "tense problem" in the infobox is part of the problem. With no source or caution, it lists the date this album "was" released. The telling point is this: you said,
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A couple of sites can at least verify the track listing, and CDUniverse provides an album cover, so this may just be good enough for now -- nothing seems to violate WP:CRYSTAL.
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Again, please keep your comments on topic. If you take issue with me and/or my actions, discuss them on my talk page or take it to dispute resolution. Thanks. -
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The album is by a notable artist and comes out in 2 weeks. Mdsummermsw really needs to calm down and stop sending things to to AFD for questionable reasons.
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Sorry but this is just silly we are going to have a 5 day AFD on it, delete it, then allow it be recreated a week later?
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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In general, if the musician or ensemble that recorded an album is considered notable, then officially release
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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And you could have sourced this article in less time then it took you to send it to AFD.
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It will be released in 2 weeks. Your nominations are increasingly getting more and more
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forbids only unsourced speculation, not sourced articles about scheduled future events.
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forbids only unsourced speculation, not sourced articles about scheduled future events.
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albums may have sufficient notability to have individual articles on Knowledge.
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There doesn't seem to be any real info on the album yet; its AMG listing is
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is, in fact, an unsourced article about a scheduled future event. -
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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I believe you're misreading the guideline and misinterpreting
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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
deletion review
Bongwarrior
talk
02:59, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Ruthless (album)
Ruthless (album)
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
delete
View log
Knowledge:Music#Albums_and_songs
reliable sources
Mdsummermsw
talk
15:53, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Ridernyc
talk
15:57, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Mdsummermsw
talk
16:05, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
pointy

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