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changes on several sides). I'm not going to go into the details because it doesn't really have any bearing on the deletion discussion (because the exact ownership/recognition doesn't specifically say anything about notability) but we should be careful when we use words like "dishonest"; it's much better just to state that something is incorrect (with reasons).
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Very glad to see this. Whatever problems Mr. Faust may be having with complying with our guidelines, he's remained polite and respectful in the face of some pretty heated pushback, and we should acknowledge that, I think. Google reveals that he has played his own role in the history of hang gliding
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I don't think this really matters, but while trying to understand his topic ban, JoeFaust mentioned that the article isn't dishonest; speaking as Joe Faust (the actual human being who registered the organization), apparently the history is a bit more complicated than that (and has to do with name
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