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changes on several sides). I'm not going to go into the details because it doesn't really have any bearing on the deletion discussion (because the exact ownership/recognition doesn't specifically say anything about notability) but we should be careful when we use words like "dishonest"; it's much better just to state that something is incorrect (with reasons).
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Yes, I started the article. I am a regular contributor to WP. I will step aside of this discussion while staying an observers, except when asked direct specific questions. There are RS in Popular Science, the 60-70s book of associations, Ground Skimmer, and the publications mentioned. Paper copies of
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Very glad to see this. Whatever problems Mr. Faust may be having with complying with our guidelines, he's remained polite and respectful in the face of some pretty heated pushback, and we should acknowledge that, I think. Google reveals that he has played his own role in the history of hang gliding
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I don't think this really matters, but while trying to understand his topic ban, JoeFaust mentioned that the article isn't dishonest; speaking as Joe Faust (the actual human being who registered the organization), apparently the history is a bit more complicated than that (and has to do with name
266:- The World Paragliding Association by definition should be a world-wide association. Of whom, I ask? This "association" is the creation of Mr Faust to promote his minority POV and nothing more. If you wish to see how true paragliding associations organise themselves and operate, check out the 151: 228:
Low & Slow went to 23 nations and are in some libraries today. Hang Gliding Museum has a full set of Hang Glider Weekly, Low & Slow, Hang Glider Magazine (218 editons together). USHPA publishes as said in the article.
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and we need to appreciate that; even if he may be having trouble complying with our editing policies, there's a real world person out there. So kudos for retraction and apology.
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to give credibility but I believe is not formally recognised by same, refers to itself as the successor to USHGA but this body still exists having merely changed its name to
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Created by Joe Faust about own organization, this article does not meet our general notability requirements, not does it meet
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Point taken. I withdraw 'dishonest' and put 'misleading' in it's place. Sorry Joe.
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for "Low and Slow" and "Joe Faust" yields a few decent results, though...
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editor. The refs cited do not provide minimum level of notability for
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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a bit of self promotion with no real sign of notability.
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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
Tone
21:21, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
World Paragliding Association
World Paragliding Association
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
View log
Google
books
news
scholar
free images
WP refs
FENS
JSTOR
TWL
WP:GROUP
reliable sources
Shawn in Montreal
talk
19:16, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

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