740:. Takeel, we can read. The article you nominated is about the reality of WWIII as we know it (as opposed to the media hype, or potential weapons that may be used). Please remember that WWI and WWII were both this century, and each resulted in a new world administrative body being created to ensure another WW didnt occur. WWIII has hovered over our heads for decades, and most nations have (big) buildings worth of classified material on scenarios, and how do deal with those scenarios should it happen. It is a real subject; the references are provided in the linked article (maybe this should be converted to a list of close calls?), and Afd is not the appropriate spot for discuss editorial issues.
140:- the page history is rather bizarre but telling. This article has only ever been made up of original research, which various editors have diligently tried to remove or ameliorate. The answer, I think, is to delete the article unless someone comes up with actual sources that can move this article beyond simply stating "WWIII is the hypothetical next world war." -
164:- Yes it needs improving but so do various other articles. The concept of WWIII is well known within popular culture and the public psyc. This is deserving of an article. It was also a previous featured article candiate and the entry on the discussion page shows only one point missing on the star. If I wasn't so tired I'd add more (and may edit later, sorry)
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Articles that present extrapolation, speculation, and "future history" are original research and therefore inappropriate. Of course, we do and should have articles about notable artistic works, essays, or credible research that embody predictions. An article on Star Trek is appropriate; an article on
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I consider that somewhat in error myself (in that future weapons development is possibly a topic of some encyclopedic value, for example the recent Air Force ray gun). However, and perhaps most importantly, the concept of World War III is established enough that it does exist, and as such should be
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Very common concept. Hundreds of books, movies and video games deal with it and call it by that name. Not to mention the fact that USSR and US both based their policies on the idea for 50 years. Article could be sourced, just because it appears OR now does not mean it should be deleted.
841:- this article simply cannot be deleted because it is informative, as a Knowledge (XXG) article should be. Such a common topic should have it's place in an encyclopedia. However, this article does need more than just a "historical close calls" section. --
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OK it's not a hoax, I found the very old subpage, but still not a reason to keep the article. Even the FA discussion falls into the trap of EQUIVOCATING the concept of "World War III" with "Nuclear War" and "Cold War." This is a
188:- This term has been used many times by writers and politicians to describe the war on terror and the Cold War, however the article delves in "what could have been". It would be better if some mention was made of this. --
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This title should be reserved for when the next world war starts, currently scheduled for July 2007 I believe. What, you didn't get the memo? --
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