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652: 305:, because there is no place in guideline, essay, or policy that makes use of this one year figure you've decided upon. The concept of world domination is certainly notable enough to warrant an article, the article is just poorly written as it stands (And should be semi-protected since everyone and their brother owns the world). The purpose of wikipedia is to improve, not to sweep everything that doesn't meet some arbitrary quality control deadline underneath the carpet. 215:. That's what this article is about, and its an OR mashup that includes flash-in-the-pan wannabes like Hitler and Napoleon along with big old civilizations. The idea that ancient civilizations thought they dominated the world is hyperbole, not history. For instance, at the height of the Roman Empire's expansion they knew their silk and spices were coming from places they could never hope to control. They also knew Alexander the Great had conquered as far as the 211:, an encyclopedic topic (at least potentially -- it also has problems), and merge whatever might be useful there; if not, follow PBS's suggestion and move the disambiguation page to it. There really is a Ming the Merciless/James-Bond-villain taste to the title (an unencyclopedic tone), but the problem goes beyond that. A more accurate title would be something like 253:
to know that articles should not be deleted based on the lack of sources, nor information necessarily removed (Except in bios), this article is a breeding ground for vandalism. The content should be moved to an appropriate article that suits the subject, which is not World Domination per say, but
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This is a real concept, but mainly found in fiction and conspiracy theories not real life. There should be an article on it but there are no sources that discuss the topic as a whole, rather than individual cases. When a book is written entitled "World Domination in Fact and Fiction" then the WP
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This article has had a request for sources for a year and non have been provided. At the moment the article is OR. If all the text that has not sources was deleted the article would contain almost no text. The title encourages speculation of the sort seen in James Bond plots or in the actions of
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I've reverted vandalism two or three times in the past two weeks, but I have not edited the article in any significant manner. No, one year is not the arbitrary deadline. While I feel this should be deleted for other reasons, I would normally contest the attitude you have over the deletion of
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brings up plenty of sources with nations and politicians accusing each other of seeking out "world domination." I think if the article was shifted to present this information and anything else that may be gained from other reliable sources, then this article would be worth saving.
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before his own army told him they didn't want to go further, and the Roman army couldn't even hold Mesopotamia. Probably no ancient empire was so ignorant as to think they dominated the whole "world", no matter what Toynbee said. It might be possible to source something like
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on the subject? If not then why not support the deletion of the article until such time as reliable sources are provided? It is unreliable speculative pieces such as this, with no supporting reliable sources that brings discredit to this project.
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The nomination seems counterfactual. The article has sources and there don't seem to be any specific requests for more. The claims of OR seem fanciful and are unsupported. As for books, there are hundreds of them on the subject.
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After a request has been made, a year is more than enough time for some sources to be provided. "If no reliable, third-party sources can be found for an article topic, Knowledge (XXG) should not have an article on it."
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There is no reason why an article can not be recreated if it is properly sourced. You have made several edits to the article in the last year, but have not see fit to fix the problems of
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is moved here or this page is made a redirect. I think the former is better that the latter, or someone might be tempted to remove the redirect by restoring the sourced article.
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was a hoax originally written about the Napoleonists and later changed to be about the Jews. It claims they want to take over Europe, but not the whole world.)
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to conquer the world, or attempted to lead a crusade that was not against a specific enemy, but rather against all (Genghis Khan for example). -
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Just because an article has sources, it does not mean that they are relevant to the concept. For example take the section
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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it does not say anything about world domination other than one quote, the rest is editorial conjunction, and
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section the very first sentence contradicts the concept of World domination. The whole section relies on
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then add an entry to point to Hegemony. Possibly merge material and subpage the history into Hegemony.
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a policy and not an essay). And because I copied it across many moths ago the same sentence is also in
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or sources. A year is more than enough time for editors to find sources for articles such as these. --
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PBS, are you seriously suggesting that there are no reliable sources which discuss world domination?
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List of major historic hegemonic powers and states that almost became major historic hegemonic powers
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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an unpublished book, and the section reads like a fictional plot in a
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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p.s. The sad thing is when the article is gone the wikicartoon
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Do you see any sources that would not fall under the
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Dance Music's RuPaul: Poised for `World Domination'
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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
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