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602:, as was stated as a reason for the revert to the redirect, the main article for Ultima does not contain more detailed information about this topic, and it would be best for page sizes to keep this article as if it were a split article from my point of view. It seems notable enough, and arguing that an article has little content is not a reason for deletion. Knowledge (XXG) is a work in progress, we should not delete pages because they are not complete. -- 397:. Disruptive nomination. Nominator wanted to redirect page (meaning he believes the name is a plausible search term), but two users disagreed and restored the article. Now he's arguing for deletion without redirect, contradicting the belief that there's a plausible search term involved. There seems to be more spite/pique here than is warranted. And the discussion regarding the 336:
The articles are completely dead and badly written. Such a "long lived" characters have only had thirteen edits this year. There is no reason to believe discussion is necessary (though I did ask if the Lord British article had any potential) with articles in that state. I'll get the number consensus
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I see you took it upon yourself to go around replacing articles for notable characters in the Ultima series, with redirects as well. Do you believe that all those who have worked on these articles, for the years they've been around, will agree with your opinion they should be eliminated, replaced
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No, but they do determine the proper way to manage such articles. The same thing was done with the Ultima Underworld "series", so this isn't any different. You do realize that you are arguing over absolutely nothing, right? It's the same exact content as what's already in the main article.
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It is a perfectly notable series, two of the games made, and a third canceled. The number of games made in a series, doesn't determine whether or not the article is valid. I have added information to the article, finding an interview a developer did, and using that as a reference.
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is notable, though I'm not sure how to best handle this particular instance. I'm not sure if there's any reason to keep a "sub-series" as a separate article when the main article could pretty much do. In any case, I don't see why this should be deleted.
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If a spin-off series can fit within the main article, then that is it. It would have to take up a lot of space in order to actually warrant an article. If you don't agree with that, I suggest that you bring it up with the video game project.
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If the games stop being made quite a number of years ago, then chances are, there isn't a lot of things that needed to be edited, nothing new coming out. How active an article is, does not determine where or not it should be deleted.
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votes rather than arguments in rapid fire fashion across multiple AfDs. We expect participants in these discussions to review the actual individual articles under discussion and the comments made by those above. Sincerely,
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Policy is not determined by the video game project. The games are Ultima only in name, using entirely different artwork and a totally different feel for play. They aren't just a spin off, but notable in their own right.
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The amazing thing about redirects is that they do not need to actually contain old, useless content. They can be recreated afterward, so there is nothing wrong with wanting such content deleted.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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And your redirects can be reverted as well, so there is nothing wrong with wanting such content preserved.
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if it's a minor series then why do two of the games of the series have articles of their own?
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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This is a minor spin-off "series" that is already covered within the fourth paragraph of
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You argument is still invalid - minor series are not necessarily non-notable.--
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with redirects? Why not discuss it on those talk pages before acting?
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No, but explaining why the nominator's claim appears inaccurate is. --
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OTHERSTUFFEXISTS does not apply to my argument. I'm not pointing to
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is not a valid reason for deletion. Please stop copy and pasting
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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at some point tomorrow, so you won't have to worry about that.
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seres doesn't line up with the nominator's comments.
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