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525:"Beer" is the lead name of the firm. Beer and his partners and attorneys worked for years to keep Hiss afloat. Just because Beer himself is (per current references) the least helpful contributor in terms of any kind of direct legal contribution does not lessen the fact that its Beer (via his firm Beer) that works so hard for Hiss – and in so many aspects of his life, whether (1) in Hiss's lifelong fight to regain his reputation (Rosenwald, Lane), (2) in personal affairs (Buttenwieser), or (3) in his subsequent professional career (Beer). Of all these people, Beer is the one who knew him from Harvard days back in the late 1920s: he is the glue. For anyone interested in this case, it sure would be great to "click" on "Walter Beer" and find his role – IMHO, "notable" as in very much worth noting and knowing. -- 502: 320:, a major figure in 20th Century American history. Beer studied with Hiss at Harvard Law. Beer's law firm provided at least three lawyers who defended Hiss at various points in time during his 50-year battle to assert his innocence. Please read the 178: 477: 131: 238: 431:
My argument is that if this article can be improved with RS to show notability then it should be kept. If no notability can be established then it should be deleted.--
172: 373:- the stub currently only gives a bare curriculum vita of the subject - he was born, he went to law school, started a law firm etc. It mentions, in passing, the 257: 209:
Non-notable individual lacking in-depth, non-trivial support. References are single-line mentions and a "paid notice" obit. Fails to provide support for
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reddogsix's initial recommendation is now outdated due to updates to entry, which include more details and more links to still other notable people.
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case, but doesnt go into detail about what his involvement was. Lets wait and see if we can get any RS about what he did to be notable.--
17: 69: 104: 99: 601: 108: 546:? There is no evidence he was directly involved in the Hiss case. You seem to be stuck on the thinking that Knowledge (XXG) 193: 453: 160: 91: 672: 40: 56:), merely being associated with someobody notable does not imply notability itself. And nobody here is showing that 436: 382: 53: 615:
defended Hiss. You are using a circular argument that since the article says that, it must be true. Not so.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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hired Beer ... "as general counsel to pass on contracts and other corporate problems".
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Whoopee. That's about it, so GNG and BIO are definitely not satisfied.
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This new addition to the lede might complete the "keep" argument:
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entry before any consideration for deletion of Walter Beer stub. --
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Have added new details, which help underscore Beer's importance.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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demonstrate close connection to and strong support for
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462:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 310:The online citations used to compile this entry on 199: 395:- So your !vote is to keep a non-notable article? 43:). No further edits should be made to this page. 675:). No further edits should be made to this page. 611:- Hardly, there is no evidence provided that 239:list of New York-related deletion discussions 8: 476:Note: This debate has been included in the 256:Note: This debate has been included in the 237:Note: This debate has been included in the 587: 475: 255: 236: 417:The argument is that this is a "stub." -- 258:list of Law-related deletion discussions 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 24: 542:- How does any of this support 487:16:46, 30 September 2017 (UTC) 469:16:46, 30 September 2017 (UTC) 441:23:13, 29 September 2017 (UTC) 427:20:28, 27 September 2017 (UTC) 413:15:26, 27 September 2017 (UTC) 387:17:43, 23 September 2017 (UTC) 363:15:28, 23 September 2017 (UTC) 334:14:42, 23 September 2017 (UTC) 301:15:28, 23 September 2017 (UTC) 269:06:55, 23 September 2017 (UTC) 250:06:55, 23 September 2017 (UTC) 231:01:41, 23 September 2017 (UTC) 1: 654:01:52, 8 October 2017 (UTC) 633:18:14, 2 October 2017 (UTC) 568:18:18, 2 October 2017 (UTC) 535:17:28, 2 October 2017 (UTC) 514:00:48, 1 October 2017 (UTC) 74:09:20, 8 October 2017 (UTC) 692: 664:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 345:is not inherited. 605: 592:comment added by 489: 471: 275:Outdated Comment: 271: 252: 683: 666: 619: 554: 485: 467: 461: 459: 457: 399: 349: 287: 267: 248: 217: 204: 203: 189: 141: 129: 111: 34: 691: 690: 686: 685: 684: 682: 681: 680: 679: 673:deletion review 662: 617: 552: 523:Considerations: 481: 472: 463: 452: 450: 433:Bellerophon5685 397: 379:Bellerophon5685 347: 285: 261: 242: 215: 146: 137: 102: 86: 83: 54:WP:NOTINHERITED 48:The result was 41:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 689: 687: 678: 677: 657: 656: 639: 638: 637: 636: 635: 575: 574: 573: 572: 571: 570: 491: 490: 460: 449: 448: 447: 446: 445: 444: 443: 368: 367: 366: 365: 305: 304: 303: 272: 253: 207: 206: 143: 82: 77: 46: 45: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 688: 676: 674: 670: 665: 659: 658: 655: 651: 647: 643: 640: 634: 630: 626: 625: 622: 614: 610: 607: 606: 603: 599: 595: 591: 586: 582: 579: 578: 577: 576: 569: 565: 561: 560: 557: 549: 545: 541: 538: 537: 536: 532: 528: 524: 520: 517: 516: 515: 511: 507: 503: 500: 496: 493: 492: 488: 484: 483:North America 479: 474: 473: 470: 466: 465:North America 458: 455: 442: 438: 434: 430: 429: 428: 424: 420: 416: 415: 414: 410: 406: 405: 402: 394: 391: 390: 389: 388: 384: 380: 376: 372: 364: 360: 356: 355: 352: 344: 341:- Simply put 340: 337: 336: 335: 331: 327: 323: 319: 318: 313: 309: 306: 302: 298: 294: 293: 290: 282: 279: 278: 276: 273: 270: 266: 265: 259: 254: 251: 247: 246: 240: 235: 234: 233: 232: 228: 224: 223: 220: 212: 202: 198: 195: 192: 188: 184: 180: 177: 174: 171: 168: 165: 162: 159: 156: 152: 149: 148:Find sources: 144: 140: 136: 133: 127: 123: 119: 115: 110: 106: 101: 97: 93: 89: 85: 84: 81: 78: 76: 75: 71: 70:contributions 67: 63: 62:Jo-Jo Eumerus 59: 55: 51: 44: 42: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 663: 660: 641: 623: 620: 612: 608: 588:— Preceding 584: 580: 558: 555: 539: 522: 518: 506:Clarityfiend 494: 451: 403: 400: 392: 371:Keep for now 370: 369: 353: 350: 338: 315: 307: 291: 288: 280: 274: 264:CAPTAIN RAJU 263: 245:CAPTAIN RAJU 244: 221: 218: 208: 196: 190: 182: 175: 169: 163: 157: 147: 134: 49: 47: 31: 28: 312:Walter Beer 308:Notability: 173:free images 88:Walter Beer 80:Walter Beer 646:PhilKnight 499:Alger Hiss 375:Alger Hiss 343:notability 322:Alger Hiss 317:Alger Hiss 669:talk page 497:per nom. 37:talk page 671:or in a 602:contribs 594:Aboudaqn 590:unsigned 581:New Lede 527:Aboudaqn 454:Relisted 419:Aboudaqn 326:Aboudaqn 132:View log 60:is met. 39:or in a 609:Comment 540:Comment 393:Comment 339:Comment 281:Comment 179:WP refs 167:scholar 105:protect 100:history 642:Delete 495:Delete 151:Google 109:delete 58:WP:BIO 50:delete 194:JSTOR 155:books 139:Stats 126:views 118:watch 114:links 16:< 650:talk 629:talk 598:talk 564:talk 548:WP:N 544:WP:N 531:talk 519:Keep 510:talk 437:talk 423:talk 409:talk 383:talk 359:talk 330:talk 297:talk 227:talk 211:WP:N 187:FENS 161:news 122:logs 96:talk 92:edit 66:talk 624:six 621:dog 618:red 559:six 556:dog 553:red 404:six 401:dog 398:red 354:six 351:dog 348:red 292:six 289:dog 286:red 222:six 219:dog 216:red 201:TWL 130:– ( 652:) 631:) 613:he 604:) 600:• 566:) 533:) 512:) 480:. 439:) 425:) 411:) 385:) 361:) 332:) 299:) 260:. 241:. 229:) 213:. 181:) 124:| 120:| 116:| 112:| 107:| 103:| 98:| 94:| 72:) 68:, 648:( 627:( 596:( 562:( 529:( 508:( 435:( 421:( 407:( 381:( 357:( 328:( 295:( 225:( 205:) 197:· 191:· 183:· 176:· 170:· 164:· 158:· 153:( 145:( 142:) 135:· 128:) 90:( 64:(

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