525:"Beer" is the lead name of the firm. Beer and his partners and attorneys worked for years to keep Hiss afloat. Just because Beer himself is (per current references) the least helpful contributor in terms of any kind of direct legal contribution does not lessen the fact that its Beer (via his firm Beer) that works so hard for Hiss – and in so many aspects of his life, whether (1) in Hiss's lifelong fight to regain his reputation (Rosenwald, Lane), (2) in personal affairs (Buttenwieser), or (3) in his subsequent professional career (Beer). Of all these people, Beer is the one who knew him from Harvard days back in the late 1920s: he is the glue. For anyone interested in this case, it sure would be great to "click" on "Walter Beer" and find his role – IMHO, "notable" as in very much worth noting and knowing. --
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