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554:, but every time I do, they get deleted. I had the impression that when a franchise offshoot didn't have its own template (Disney's The Hunchback of Notre Dame, Andrew Lloyd Webber's Phantom of the Opera etc.), they were merged with the template about the original property. But despite other parts of the Tangled franchise being in the Rapunzel template, the songs keep getting deleted. Now that I know the article is being kept, I want to bring up this discussion. Am I in the right or in the wrong?-- 480:
says: "Coverage of a song in the context of an album review does not establish notability. If the only coverage of a song occurs in the context of reviews of the album on which it appears, that material should be contained in the album article and an independent article about the song should not be
276:: Potential future article beats actual current article every time. These songs from musicals may not have been released as singles, but have been extensively analysed and there is a wealth of information about their context within the movie. Looking for sources will demonstrate its notability.-- 310:. In response to your critique, I went ahead and sourced lots of information on the song's production, and added a book source. Again, this doesn't cover every single source available, but it is certainly more than "blogs and film reviews" and demonstrates the song's notability. 195:
Contested prod. Article does not assert its independent notability. The mere fact of being a Disney song is not sufficient. Was not released as a single. No thematic info, composers' notes, sales info, awards, extremely limited reception.
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As per Quenhitran. Reviewed article in time since AfD nomination, and there's been significant expansion. Notability appears to be established now. --
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created." I think film reviews are pretty much the same thing. We're not counting how many times the song gets mentioned, we're looking for
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Concur with NinjaRobotPirate. First, the song, while very nice, is not notable in and of itself. The only really notable song from
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The creator has established notability for the article. No matter what'd be its eventual quality, it should not be deleted.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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In other (but related) news, I've been trying to add these songs from Tangled to
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is "I See The Light." Second, only three of the sources cited appear to pass
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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