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636:- there are buckets of sources limited to the Philadelphia area, and a passing mention from one in New York (which is not very far away); writeups of regional interest. Some writeups in books (including its own published cookbooks) but passing mentions or directory listings again. Quite a bit of buzz around its former owner making public appearances, which doesn't confer notability on her restaurant. We need more. That said, there is depth of coverage within the limited coverage area, so this is a weak !vote, but tagging this for A7 deletion was clearly incorrect. 267:
probably going to have to be looked at, in my opinion, and gone over with a fine-tooth comb. I've dealt with a similar editor here on Knowledge (now retired), and that was exhausting enough, but the scale at which Neelix has been doing this all of these years simply boggles the mind. This article very well may meet notability, but the dubious genesis is disturbing and symptomatic.
362:: Another problem with Neelix, somewhat similar to his unwarranted mass redirects, are his unwarranted mass categories in the articles he creates. I had to remove 5 of the 9 categories on this article because they didn't apply. And beyond that the article contained at least three false claims not supported by the citations. 266:
those articles (with dubious notability) apparently in order for the main article to look good and notable itself and/or for the main article to be impressive enough at first sight to pass GA/FA without much investigation. In the end it comes down to the fact that every article Neelix ever created is
656:. Neelix created a crap article but that doesn't mean the subject lacks notability, which it clearly has. Dozens if not hundreds of instances of significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, so easily passes GNG and any other relevant guideline. Here are just a few: 540:
buckets of trivia, it seems to me, like the sentence on restrooms , as mentioned as just part of a general nyt article. Or local business journals, thoroly undiscriminating in publishing pr for local institutions. Or that the founder gave a talk at a university. Or the restaurant's PR for its
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There appear to be plenty of available RS sources; they simply were not used when Neelix created this slapdash article. Also, when you !voted Legacypac had deleted the most important part of the article without cause.
607:*sigh* There are plenty of full articles, including HuffPo. Apparently I am going to have to collect links and post them here since no one else can be bothered, even though this is an AfD and that's how we judge GNG. 464:
which part? That the previous owner was a panelist at a University in Denvor after she sold the place (which might do something for an article on her but not the cafe) or that they ran a special for 10 days last year
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Have you even made an effort to check Google or GoogleBooks? You don't even have to type the search -- just click the links at the top. AfDs are decided on notability, not on the state an article is currently in.
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unreliable sources. When there are sources, but they are probably unreliable, I think an afd discussion is fairer. Somebody might possibly find better . The speedy was earlier declined for just that reason.
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presence at local environmental events. If there are better, please add them and remove this sort of sourcing, which is of course typical of promotional editing.
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3 location local business, created and only edited by Neelix, likely so he could blue link this sentence "
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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I think this could have been speedied: what possible claim to notability exists here?
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Like this GA that goes on for 50,000 bytes on a 32 page illustrated kids book
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like no restaurant has ever offered a special price of $ 35 on a meal?
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I see they published 2 cookbooks, and a good many minor mentions.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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No, that has nothing to do with anything I'm talking about.
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