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437:. There is usefulness in having a compete set of entries on hereditary peers, even if some peers are less prominent or noteworthy than others, even when the article must of necessity remain something of a stub. Considering these articles in isolation, i.e. not noting that they are part of a wider series, is mistaken. It strikes me as important to let the relevant wikiproject(s) know about these sorts of deletion proposals.-- 234:
and elsewhere: "There is usefulness in having a compete set of entries on hereditary peers, even if some peers are less prominent or noteworthy than others, even when the article must of necessity remain something of a stub. Considering these articles in isolation, i.e. not noting that they are part
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From an objective point of view I read this article as: Spent Two years as product designer, inherited the family title and now runs the family estate. Is a motoring enthusiast but has done nothing in the world of motoring to mark him out as individually
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definitely fails WP:GNG and WP:BLP. "Being born" cannot mean notability, as Flaming Ferrari underlines there are no other notable activities. For the sake of completeness a row in a table is enough. --
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I'm curious. What is your understanding of the general notability guidelines? And how does your understanding differentiate from your comment here?
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is fairly high up in the peerage, and a very old title at that, one of the oldest if my information is correct. The fact that he owns
137: 17: 504:-- Being the owner of Wilton House, one of the great country houses of England and of an estate of 14000 acres is surely notable. 187: 53: 420:, per Moonraker's rationale. AfD nomination by a user who seems not to understand WP:GNG and other relevant guidelines.-- 578: 40: 153: 550:) and it would be slightly odd and not of value to the project to break the chain of Knowledge (XXG) articles. -- 353: 209: 509: 201: 547: 425: 574: 476: 442: 57: 36: 555: 400: 349: 205: 408: 374: 328: 240: 173: 505: 485:
Your argument is invalid, we are not dealing with peerage but with almost empty useless pages. --
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/Alexander Gordon, 7th Marquess of Aberdeen and Temair
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thus has never possessed the right to sit in the House of Lords.
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