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I am grateful for the advice given here. I am an Irish anti racism activist and I am currently part of the
Knowledge for Peace 2015 program in Vienna. While i have anonymous edited wikipedia articles in the past this is my first account and first article i have created.
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Source # 1 is a list of search results that are all from April (crime) and
December (trial) 2012, crime and trial are "one event", there is no coverage after the trial. # 2 is the most trivial mention I've seen in a while, it's not about the subject of this article.
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This was given nation wide media attention in
Ireland in 2010 and also in the UK as well, so i was very surprised to see that there wasn't a wikipedia page about it, hence why i started one. I will continue to edit it, in order to make it better.
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showing that the incident is familiar to newspaper readers and that it is part of the ongoing conversation about racism in
Ireland. Extensive, intensive, nationwide coverage that extends through and beyond trial are what moves incident past
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BIO articles, which are separable from individual events. The fact that this has had no long-term impact automatically disqualifies it from the encyclopedia.
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