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Normally, comments aren't removed from AFD discussions, but are crossed out when retracted. I guess in theory both you and KirtZJ could have decided to entirely remove those comments, but you aren't supposed to remove someone else's comments, so you or I couldn't remove his comments above.
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have no corresponding article whatsoever or it being in much poorer condition that its
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Semantics. Apologies if I wasnt clear. All I did was do a quick google search and found no uniqueness for notability. You feel free to do a more in-depth search. Keeping the article based solely on the reason that it has published volumes (as shown by some of
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I do not think that "probably" is good enough. I think that if you want this deleted now, you should include the magazine in this nomination.
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