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as "populated places". The county in which Top of the World is located has 209 "populated places" listed in GNIS (of which just 7 are incorporated municipalities and 4 are CDPs), but Top of the World is not one of them. Top of the World is not listed in GNIS as a populated place, but only as a "locale." Locales are expressly indicated not to be populated places; the other entities in the same county that are listed as GNIS "locales" include country clubs, campgrounds, industrial parks, named farms, named houses, and the former (historic) sites of mills. --
560:, the lake that the community encircles, and Bms4880 added to it. The lake article gives some information about the community that could be copied to this article. The big news is that a fire station was opened last year, there was a controlled forest burn this spring and the main road was closed a couple of months ago, cutting off the school buses. A small community around a small lake, not a place where much happens, but notable enough. 270:: Inhabited verified community, which are always kept. The mention in the 2001 Tennessee place names book and the county road map seems sufficient. Its not simply some marketing-created not-built subdivision of log cabins inside some larger CDP or town. Not sure whether "Top O' The World" is better name.-- 288:
The trouble is that is is not an inhabited verified community. Inhabited verified communities in the United States are listed in GNIS as "populated places". GNIS generously treats many trailer parks and residential subdivisions (entities that most Wikipedians do not consider to be worthy of articles)
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is the website for Chestnut Tops, a gated community that's part of (and typical of) the Top of the World development. In its history section, it states the area was purchased in the 1960s by Jourleman and Headrick. I couldn't find anything on Jourleman, but I determined the "Headrick" refers to a
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Not a notable place. Contrary to the article's description of it as an "unincorporated community", this seems to be a landowner's promotional name for a resort real estate property. "Top of the World Estates" is the only relevant listing in GNIS. It is described in GNIS as a "locale", which is
398:: I was a bit puzzled when this was created. It is essentially a resort property as Orlady describes it. If we opt to keep, the lede should be reworded to reflect what it actually is. Calling it an "unincorporated community" along the lines of nearby Walland or Happy Valley is misleading. 229:
NOTE: A Google search for "Top of the World Tennessee" turns up a number of hits for other places, including a "Top of the World Farm" in another part of the state and one or two vacation rental cabins in a different place in the Smoky Mountains locations with the name "Top of the World."
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Note that those same "crappy looking" websites you refer to are the sources for the content in this article. Are you saying that crappy looking websites indicate a notable topic, but slick websites do not? Where in the Knowledge (XXG) notability guidelines does that criterion appear?
487:(a library finding aid) which contains the following entry, dated June 27, 1965: "Roy and Charles Headrick are developing the Top of the World Estates and nearby commercial and other buildings between the Great Smoky Mountains National Park and the Foothills Parkway." 220:
about school bus service being blocked when the US federal government shut down in October. The closest thing I can find to notability is a list entry in a Tennessee place names book (published 2001) from a reputable publisher (but full of what appears to be original
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No need to speculate on zoning. There was no zoning in unincorporated portions (nor in some incorporated municipalities) of Blount County until circa 2000. I am not aware, however, that the absence of zoning somehow imparts notability (per
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defined to mean "Place at which there is or was human activity; it does not include populated places, mines, and dams (battlefield, crossroad, camp, farm, ghost town, landing, railroad siding, ranch, ruins, site, station, windmill)." (See
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On what basis are you concluding its a resort? The websites are crappy looking, and the occasional references to it in local press don't make it sound swanky, just a community which is distinct geographically from other
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Otherstuffexists is an actually an argument for keeping, when you've items get challenged and kept on a regular basis. I randomly picked that one because it was one of Coal Town Guy's stubs I fixed up awhile
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That is consistent with the TN place name book, which says Charles Headrick gave the community its name. There was likely no zoning in a remote area like that in the 1960s, so they had free rein to sell
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The crappy websites don't indicate notability at all in my opinion. The map and news references do, proving its treated as an inhabited community, and won't be a precedent for resort-spam.--
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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In the mountains of Tennessee, the word "resort" does not necessarily connote "swanky."
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Delete this, because Knowledge (XXG) does not exist to help promote real estate sales.
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is good (and it is), I don't see how this is not. And this is a populated place.--
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developer named Charles Headrick. On Headrick, I found
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