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If a branch specific source is not high enough quality for this set of editors, then we are not going to get far with motorcycling in Knowledge (XXG). I have identified several edits I would like to make that will make this a much richer place for those wanting further expertise on motorcycling (on other subjects), but I'm not sure I have time and energy to champion my own credibility on each fact presented. May I suggest that Editors that believe that I am biased consider themselves biased and allow others to edit my future edits? Peace.--
285:. The subject's journalism writing is basically low-level staff work at motorcycling publications, with no major original contributions, scoops, or otherwise influential writing. The most significant non-journalistic feat seems to be having ridden a motorcycle down a slalom course, but it doesn't seem to have caused much of a ripple in independent sources. 493:
Thank you for the unbiased edits then EEng and Dbratland. I came here to write this specific article and with the field specific sources at hand. I could have called myself TorSagen. Can I not edit an article on Beethoven under the user name Beethoven? Now, I shall endeavour to make this more solid.
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Eh, change your address? Move to Sweden! Though I hear the biker gangs there are dangerous. Seriously, your effort to improve the wiki is appreciated; it just so happens that the first one you picked is not the most notable one--don't let it get you down, just try again. It can be difficult to write
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Have tried to add one of the few Norwegians who has done an international career in this field. But obviously failed in my editing process. Any constructive advice on what I should do to avoid Sagen hunting me down for ruining the page about him greatly appreciated. Links added yesterday to source
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an objective biography and description, no doubt, and I for one do not think that you set out to write a vanity piece. As for Tor, you can always tell him that as long as he writes decent articles he'll keep his job, with or without a Knowledge (XXG) article. Take it easy,
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It's getting sadder. Sagen/Raptorama are obviously the same person, so unless he's planning to harm himself he should be safe from, er, himself. This is why autobios are so frowned upon: they waste everyone's time.
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Sorry, supplying reliable sources on everything is part of the job. And please, don't try to sell us on the idea that you're not Sagen, or someone close to him. You even have a second account,
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I note that the second of these two editors recently added sources to the article, but that -- their quality aside (some were blogs) -- these appeared to be articles
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Well, I don't have any proof of that, and I'll assume good faith since I personally have no reason to do otherwise. Now, EEng, which article on the pedia is
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the language information in article and fix notability issue. This article is surely not meant to be a vanity article.
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Autobiography of a journalist and motorcycle tester. A search for sources reveals no evidence the subject meets the
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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For what it's worth, the full list of external links, mostly not in English, are in
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It doesn't matter if you are or are not TorSagen. It's suspicious, both under
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Clear autobiography, not helped by today's spamming activity by
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him, and as such don't help to establish notability.
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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
Ron Ritzman
talk
14:41, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
Tor Sagen
Tor Sagen
edit
talk
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links
watch
logs
views
View log
Google
books
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scholar
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general notability guideline
-- Rrburke
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14:42, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

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