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196:, although placement on "national or significant music charts ... significant awards or honors" establishes a presumption of notability. And third, even if a song is notable, it should only be treated in a separate article "when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article...." This song fails to clear that hurdle and should be deleted or merged into 48:. There is consensus that a standalone article is not justified, the nominator was amenable to a redirect/merge, and the two editors favouring deletion did not indicate why a redirect would be inappropriate, so following Cunard's rationale. Editors are free to take whatever useful material in the history of the redirected article and use it elsewhere if appropriate. 223:, concluded that since the multiple listing was complex, the nominated articles agreed as the least notable should be redirected, and the rest should be relisted individually. Per this and my 21:56, 12 August comment at the previous nomination, I have redirected 191:
tells us three things relevant to this nomination. First, "ost songs do not rise to notability for an independent article and should redirect to another relevant article." Second, songs must must the requirements of
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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as the best alternative to deletion. This article contains useful information that could be used in a merge to
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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This article was previously nominated for deletion in a batch with ten other Dream Theater songs, see
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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in the article states. (note that the reference was added after the initial nomination). --
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to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
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to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
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But charting doesn't suffice for a standalone article, per NSONGS.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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178: 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 535:). No further edits should be made to this page. 8: 302: 203: 306:: This debate has been included in the 208:A procedural note, hatted by the author. 470:the song charted at 29 in 1993 just as 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 24: 1: 55:17:55, 3 September 2009 (UTC) 516:22:57, 31 August 2009 (UTC) 484:22:51, 31 August 2009 (UTC) 463:18:08, 30 August 2009 (UTC) 438:01:29, 29 August 2009 (UTC) 405:01:27, 27 August 2009 (UTC) 355:23:03, 20 August 2009 (UTC) 326:04:22, 15 August 2009 (UTC) 297:18:03, 14 August 2009 (UTC) 552: 528:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 369:. Song never charted. 219:. The closing admin, 447:, this song's album 237:A Right of Passage 44:The result was 514: 433: 427: 407: 357: 328: 311: 295: 271: 270: 543: 530: 496: 495: 451:Images and Words 445:Images and Words 436: 434: 431: 426: 423: 421: 400: 388: 386: 382: 352: 345: 343: 339: 320: 312: 277: 276: 261:Through Her Eyes 204: 198:Images and Words 183: 182: 168: 116: 110: 92: 52: 34: 551: 550: 546: 545: 544: 542: 541: 540: 539: 533:deletion review 526: 493: 430: 424: 419: 416: 398: 380: 377: 348: 337: 334: 318: 274: 272: 265:Constant Motion 209: 125: 112: 83: 67: 64: 50: 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 549: 547: 538: 537: 521: 520: 519: 518: 487: 486: 465: 440: 409: 408: 387: 374: 373: 372: 359: 358: 344: 331: 330: 329: 269: 268: 225:The Silent Man 211: 210: 207: 202: 186: 185: 122: 63: 58: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 548: 536: 534: 529: 523: 522: 517: 512: 508: 504: 500: 491: 490: 489: 488: 485: 481: 477: 473: 472:the reference 469: 466: 464: 460: 456: 452: 448: 446: 441: 439: 435: 428: 422: 414: 411: 410: 406: 403: 401: 394: 393: 385: 383: 376: 375: 371: 368: 364: 361: 360: 356: 353: 351: 342: 340: 333: 332: 327: 324: 321: 317: 309: 305: 301: 300: 299: 298: 293: 289: 285: 281: 267: 266: 262: 258: 254: 250: 249:Take the Time 246: 245:Pull Me Under 242: 238: 234: 230: 226: 222: 221:user:SilkTork 218: 213: 212: 206: 205: 201: 199: 195: 190: 181: 177: 174: 171: 167: 163: 159: 156: 153: 150: 147: 144: 141: 138: 135: 131: 128: 127:Find sources: 123: 120: 115: 108: 104: 100: 96: 91: 87: 82: 78: 74: 70: 69:Take the Time 66: 65: 62: 61:Take the Time 59: 57: 56: 53: 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 527: 524: 494:- Simon Dodd 467: 443:Redirect to 442: 418: 412: 395: 391: 378: 362: 349: 335: 315: 303: 275:- Simon Dodd 273: 264: 260: 256: 252: 248: 244: 240: 236: 232: 229:Hollow Years 228: 224: 214: 187: 175: 169: 161: 154: 148: 142: 136: 126: 45: 43: 31: 28: 253:Another Day 152:free images 476:kelapstick 415:per nom.-- 51:Skomorokh 367:WP:NSONGS 381:Relisted 365:. Fails 338:Relisted 241:Forsaken 189:WP:NSONG 119:View log 46:redirect 468:Comment 350:JForget 158:WP refs 146:scholar 86:protect 81:history 511:WP:LAW 455:Cunard 425:anniba 413:Delete 363:Delete 323:(talk) 292:WP:LAW 263:, and 239:, and 194:WP:GNG 130:Google 114:delete 90:delete 319:cobra 316:Cyber 173:JSTOR 134:books 117:) – ( 107:views 99:watch 95:links 16:< 480:talk 459:talk 432:loki 399:Talk 304:Note 233:Home 166:FENS 140:news 103:logs 77:talk 73:edit 313:-- 257:Lie 180:TWL 497:{ 482:) 461:) 453:. 392:NW 310:. 278:{ 259:, 255:, 251:, 247:, 235:, 231:, 227:, 200:. 160:) 105:| 101:| 97:| 93:| 88:| 84:| 79:| 75:| 513:} 509:· 507:C 505:· 503:T 501:· 499:U 478:( 457:( 420:C 402:) 396:( 294:} 290:· 288:C 286:· 284:T 282:· 280:U 184:) 176:· 170:· 162:· 155:· 149:· 143:· 137:· 132:( 124:( 121:) 111:( 109:) 71:(

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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
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 Skomorokh 
17:55, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Take the Time
Take the Time
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