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667:, but only barely. Consensus is for young players that they are given a grace period once they make their fully professional / senior international debut to become more established, but this player has clearly retired and so GNG is the only concern here. There is no indication in his brief career that any achievements were ever made that garnered sufficient significant reliable 647:
also says: "standalone articles are required to meet the General Notability Guideline. The guideline on this page provides bright-line guidance to enable editors to determine quickly if a subject is likely to meet the General Notability Guideline." I don't think a low-profile footballer as this one
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fails to meet the GNG, the outcome should be deletion. Now, of cowhat urse, I can't be sure that the subject fails to meet the GNG as I can't search Japanese sources. But none have been presented. And we can't keep an article on an off-chance that the subject might meet the GNG.
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has some chances to meet GNG, my searches returned just websites of stats, unreliable sources and some false positives. Not enough.
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is needed here, and plenty of AFD precedent exists to say that barely passing NFOOTBALL is not enough when you fail GNG, see
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coverage to establish such notability. GS has shown clear consensus above for similar such careers.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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the meeting of any of these criteria does not mean that an article
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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