631:- why do "we need to set a notability cut-off point for clubs' individual seasons"? We are not short of server space. Provided WP policies are not contravened (it is verifiable, not original research etc) then the content of articles, and any sub-articles, is a matter for the editors of the articles with the talk page being the final arbiter in any dispute. If it is considered that the season articles are considered too unimportant then it calls into question the notability threshold for clubs. The answer is not to delete perfectly respectable pages but to rethink the cut-off for notability for the parent organisation.
333:- Surely if someone is willing to keep the page up to date, (and there has been regular updates to the article), then this alone proves it's notablity to be included in wikipedia. I though that to be a notable article the criteria included the fact that it had to be regularly updated and/or visited by users on a regular basis, therefore this article is notable enough to remain on wikipedia. If this page is deleted then it calls into question the viability of all season 2007-08 pages currently on wikipedia does it not? Please respond to my usertalk page, thanks
558:- If a team is notable enough for an article I see no reason why there should not be sub-articles where, as here, the material would overbalance the main article. This also happens to be way better sourced than many football articles, as a BTW. The page should be revisited at the end of the season and, if it hasn't been kept up-to-date, it can then be deleted. But for now I see no reason for it not to be kept.
313:, or at the least smerge somewhere. Normally the Conference North would be too low to bother with season pages for, but Tamworth were in the Conference premiership until last season, and also made the final 64 of the FA Cup that year, so they're just bobbling on the edge of the required notability for season articles to make sense.
815:- Yes, but not all connected articles (such as this seasonal performance one) are deemed notable or appropriate by all interested editors. Allowing an article on Tamworth F.C. is not being questioned, that already exists without challenge - allowing a Tamworth F.C. off-shoot of this nature, though, is what is at stake here.
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Tamworth are not a notable club, but is an article about their current season really notable? I think not. To repeat what Peejay said earlier, if you didn't want your work modified you shouldn't have submitted it to Knowledge (XXG). Knowledge (XXG) is
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Tamworth are a noted club, shame you don't take as much pride in your team as I do in mine, do you get your kicks off trying to delete other peoples hard work off?
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