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330:. O dear, I should have expected that one. WP:BIAS is used to allow Chinese sources on him, though he lived for most of his life in an anglophone country, but did you read why I said he may be notable in China? There are at least 10,000 doctors (and probably far more, because I do not know how many members the London college has) in the world who have the same qualifications as this doctor. Every non-wiki source on him is in Chinese. The one English-language source on the first hospital he was president of, does not mention him. We are not talking about an Icelander, a Chuvash or an Ainu, but a member of the largest ethnic in the world. --
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