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244:. Let us first say that thanks to your intervention, the article has improved a lot. However, there are still notability problems. First, his membership of the two British medical colleges. To become a member, you must pass an exam - but any exam will allow you to become a member of both (actually, also of the Glasgow college), provided you pay. And perhaps having passed the exam at Leuven already gave him the right to that membership. Do not get me wrong: any Chinese doctor who also has a Leuven diploma and has passed one of the three British exams is more than probably notable in China, but unfortunately not really in the English-speaking world (I could not find the membership number for the London college, but Edinburgh's website claims 10,000 members). No, we cannot have articles on any "good doctor", we could have an article on an "eminent cancerologist", if only someone had written about him and his methods, success rate, ... I found 330:. O dear, I should have expected that one. WP:BIAS is used to allow Chinese sources on him, though he lived for most of his life in an anglophone country, but did you read why I said he may be notable in China? There are at least 10,000 doctors (and probably far more, because I do not know how many members the London college has) in the world who have the same qualifications as this doctor. Every non-wiki source on him is in Chinese. The one English-language source on the first hospital he was president of, does not mention him. We are not talking about an Icelander, a Chuvash or an Ainu, but a member of the largest ethnic in the world. -- 166:, this is obviously not a hoax, but vital information for a real biography is still missing. The second article only confirms the most important feat, ie donating about a million US dollars to a hospital, and a large part of the biography was already in the Chinese version. We still only know about him from 1998, we have no birthdate, no (precise) dates for other things he is supposed to have done. The article summary calls him an eminent cancerologist, but the only thing which seems more or less clear is that he is or was a shrewd investor. How old is this man? -- 252:
claims to exist since 1995 - the text of our article suggests Tang was a president long before the 90s. But that is a minor problem (the text of an article can always be improved), far more damning is the number of members claimed: 128. That is about one tenth of the number of doctors in Iceland. of
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is not a valid argument for deletion. English Knowledge (XXG) is a resource for the whole world, not just for those in anglophone countries. Plenty of people in China can read English and use English Knowledge (XXG). You say that you don't want
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Government awarded Tang Yuhan two honorary titles for his contributions. I don't know how many people received such titles, but apparently much less than 10,000, I think. --
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that do not refer to Knowledge (XXG) on him or to Catholic University of Leuven, where he is supposed to have graduated before 1930, making him at least 99 years of age.
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Not notable. Not verifiable, lacking reliable sources. Chinese version translated by Altavista on talk page does not add anything notable, nor any sources. No googles on
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course: this works diffrently than the number of medical college members. The smaller an organisation like that is, the less notable its president. --
187: 146:. I have added reliable sources to prove his notability. Unfortunately the sources are in Chinese language. If you can read, please check. Thanks.-- 183: 52:. Whilst the addition of citations is commendable, unfortunately the fact that they are in Chinese means that cannot be confirmed as 17: 346:. As I said above, even though he may not be a notable doctor, he may still be a notable benefactor. I cannot see any notability of 95: 90: 225: 99: 232:. I don't know what your standard of notability is. But are those sources sufficient? If not, what proof do you need? -- 392: 36: 82: 48:. The majority of consensus lies with the deletion of this article, primarily because of the lack of established 391:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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being invoked, I have put the translation of these two on the talk page as well. Checking on the basis of
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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about the Sino-Belgian hospital at Shanghai. I do not see Tang's name anywhere.
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as to whether the the subject is notable, but I'd just like to point out that
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179: 182:. And I have provided reliable source for his membership in 112: 108: 104: 269:, can he be still notable as a great benefactor of 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 395:). No further edits should be made to this page. 218:. OK. I just added another two citations from 8: 314:to be invoked, but I am invoking it here. 250:The Hong Kong Chinese Medical Association 158:Because I do not want to run the risk of 188:Royal College of Physicians of Edinburgh 226:Hong Kong Chinese Medical Association 184:Royal College of Physicians of London 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 24: 350:other than his great donation to 228:and his great contributions to 1: 367:14:54, 13 November 2007 (UTC) 335:14:29, 13 November 2007 (UTC) 319:12:00, 13 November 2007 (UTC) 282:22:31, 12 November 2007 (UTC) 258:22:04, 12 November 2007 (UTC) 237:21:06, 12 November 2007 (UTC) 211:20:12, 12 November 2007 (UTC) 206:no indication of notability. 195:17:04, 12 November 2007 (UTC) 171:16:41, 12 November 2007 (UTC) 151:16:14, 12 November 2007 (UTC) 138:15:50, 12 November 2007 (UTC) 65:18:31, 18 November 2007 (UTC) 412: 273:and the Honorary Dean of 388:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 224:for his presidency of 348:John William Sterling 277:Medical School? -- 275:Ningbo University 271:Chinese education 230:Chinese education 178:. He was born in 131:Tang Yuhan doctor 403: 390: 120: 102: 62: 54:Reliable Sources 34: 411: 410: 406: 405: 404: 402: 401: 400: 399: 393:deletion review 386: 358:Government and 352:Yale University 93: 77: 74: 58: 44:The result was 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 409: 407: 398: 397: 380: 378: 377: 376: 375: 374: 373: 372: 371: 370: 369: 338: 337: 332:Paul Pieniezny 322: 321: 291: 290: 289: 288: 287: 286: 285: 284: 255:Paul Pieniezny 221:People's Daily 201: 200: 199: 198: 197: 168:Paul Pieniezny 135:Paul Pieniezny 127: 126: 73: 68: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 408: 396: 394: 389: 383: 382: 381: 368: 365: 361: 357: 353: 349: 345: 342: 341: 340: 339: 336: 333: 329: 326: 325: 324: 323: 320: 317: 313: 308: 304: 300: 297: 296: 295: 294: 293: 292: 283: 280: 276: 272: 268: 264: 261: 260: 259: 256: 251: 247: 243: 240: 239: 238: 235: 231: 227: 223: 222: 217: 214: 213: 212: 209: 205: 202: 196: 193: 189: 185: 181: 177: 174: 173: 172: 169: 165: 161: 157: 154: 153: 152: 149: 145: 142: 141: 140: 139: 136: 132: 124: 118: 114: 110: 106: 101: 97: 92: 88: 84: 80: 76: 75: 72: 69: 67: 66: 63: 61: 55: 51: 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 387: 384: 379: 343: 327: 316:Phil Bridger 306: 302: 298: 262: 241: 219: 215: 203: 175: 155: 143: 130: 128: 59: 45: 43: 31: 28: 79:Tang Yuhan 71:Tang Yuhan 50:Notability 267:physician 360:Zhejiang 123:View log 364:Neo-Jay 344:Comment 328:Comment 312:WP:BIAS 303:neutral 299:Comment 279:Neo-Jay 263:Comment 242:Comment 234:Neo-Jay 216:Comment 192:Neo-Jay 160:WP:BIAS 156:Comment 148:Neo-Jay 96:protect 91:history 60:Anthøny 356:Ningbo 301:. I'm 204:Delete 164:WP:BIO 100:delete 46:Delete 176:Reply 117:views 109:watch 105:links 16:< 246:this 208:Dahn 186:and 180:1912 144:Keep 113:logs 87:talk 83:edit 121:– ( 354:. 115:| 111:| 107:| 103:| 98:| 94:| 89:| 85:| 56:. 125:) 119:) 81:(

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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
Notability
Reliable Sources
Anthøny
18:31, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Tang Yuhan
Tang Yuhan
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
View log
Paul Pieniezny
15:50, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Neo-Jay
16:14, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
WP:BIAS
WP:BIO
Paul Pieniezny
16:41, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
1912
Royal College of Physicians of London
Royal College of Physicians of Edinburgh
Neo-Jay

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