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on that question, no RfC has been created, the last discussion at WT:NPERSON was in April, and AFAIK no attempts have been made to pursue this through AZ-speaking editors and so on. It is now a different time, and what made sense then does not necessarily make sense today. Patience is different than acceptance that we will leave this question unanswered indefinitely.
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DangerousPanda's June 1 close, mentioned below, deserves mention. I believe that it was a wise, patient close, with a prejudice toward retaining material and a Gentle Mallet of Clue suggesting that an RfC was needed on the League's status. To the best of my knowledge, discussion has completely halted
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This player seems to be the "victim" of discussion surrounding the professional standing of an entire league. When the article was created, it appears that consensus was that the league WAS professional. There still does not appear to be consensus that the league is NOT professional - include links
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I'm left with the view that any argument based on NFOOTY here is pretty weak, and I have weighted NFOOTY arguments in general here quite weakly. In addition, SNGs in general and NFOOTY in particular is usually, as a matter of textual interpretation, treated as putting the burden of proof on those
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In this instance, NFOOTY gives a plainly ambiguous result. Having looked to the April discussion at WT:NFOOTY, I find that while there was a consensus to remove the League from the FPL, I do not see that there is a consensus about whether the league is or isn't fully-professional, it is instead
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as have not played senior international football nor played in a fully professional league. No indication that subjects have garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements. Keep votes above all make the fundamental error in assuming that the league is considered
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In summary, NFOOTY's result is "answer hazy", and no amount of voting in this AfD will really get to the bottom of the ambiguity. Until that ambiguity is resolved, I believe that GNG is the only meaningful policy-based measure of the notability of players from this League.
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was held and the consensus is that this league is not fully professional. As such, no players in this league who have not either played in a fully professional league elsewhere or played senior international football pass
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provided below that show that it is. The issue surrounding the league should be resolved through RFC once-and-for-all before additional nominations on any of the players or teams in that league as stated in here
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merely shows they are part of an organisation of professional leagues, but does not show that all clubs playing the league MUST be fully professional.
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In short, GNG arguments get most of the weight here. And we have unanimous consensus below that the players do not meet GNG.
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wishing to show notability via the criteria, which further reduced the weight of keep arguments based on NFOOTY.
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subject notability guideline we are considering, but both are pretty much always in play in various degree.
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when it was removed without consensus and without any evidence that the league isn't fully professional.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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and are therefore reliant on GNG for notability. There is no indication of any significant
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https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Samir_Masimov_(2nd_nomination)
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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I am also nominating the following articles for the same reason.
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Recreation of an article previously deleted by PROD. Concern was
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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coverage for any achievements associated with these players.
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simply so far unverified either way. We don't know.
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