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434:. I didn't suggest it needed nation-wide coverage but I'm not even sure we could get to "state-wide" coverage with what we have so far. The vast majority of it is published in the valley itself. Some of the authors are on a first-name basis with the organiser. Independence issues aside, how does coverage from "the guy around the corner" demonstrate that this is a notable festival among a wider readership? Some of that isn't even about the festival - it's university news about a film to be shown at the festival based on (it seems) a press release. 486:
office in the same street is preferable, yes? Otherwise every local street party, farmers market, school carnival, church fete and trade show should get a gig. It obviously doesn't work that way and the line in the sand had always been the extent to which something has received attention from beyond it's local area demonstrating notability among the wider community. It's the principle behind
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the word "international". That article has even fewer references than this one (and so will possibly be nominated next). But my point is that I could add the word "international" to anything I do but that wouldn't make it notable. I wouldn't be opposed to incubation but the festival ran for 15 years
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has, for a long time, been a factor in notability. My local farmers market gets coverage in my local paper every month. It even gets a mention in our area's neighbourhood watch newsletter. Again, nobody is suggesting "world-wide" coverage but coverage from someone other than the local paper with an
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consider this a notable festival. Not every festival or its award receives this kind of coverage. Local sources can be used to fill in the particulars about history and founders. If nobody else bothers, I'll see about trying to remember to fix up the article, but I've already got three or four
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And being international doesn't prove that it is notable, either; all I said was that the word "kinda disproves" the "too local" theory.  The above discussion implies that sources are only available from Temecula Valley, which isn't a populated place.  In contrast, the article makes the claim that
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We shouldn't keep an unsourced article in mainspace, but the "What links here" shows that this is a valuable topic for the encyclopedia.  IMO it is an interesting topic, from a interesting locale of the U.S.  The title has the word "International", which kinda disproves the "too local" theory.  A
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checks and found plenty of sources from state-wide and nation-wide media - more than enough to substantiate notability. I've realised its actually a good analogy for this subject. A "local" festival that has gained genuinely international recognition and the coverage to go along with it.
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Mention of cancelation in the local paper does not prove something is notable. If we had articles on every festival that ever had an article in the local paper, this would flood Knowledge (XXG) with articles on minor, short-lived
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reference I could find was from a local newspaper which acknowledged the festival had been cancelled in 2012 due to budget issues and suggested the organisers might try to bring it back in September 2014.
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are what they are, and we do not expect world-wide coverage for any topic, as long as we do have coverage that can al ow creation of an article that serves our readers by providing
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It's not a matter of "other stuff" to say that we expect coverage from beyond an event/organisations (very) local area. In the case of Byron Bay I conducted the usual
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No, no - I found those too. "Coverage", perhaps, but I can't see how coverage in multiple (very) local publications could possibly allow this to pass
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This AFD nomination has its roots in two others where proponents suggested that winning at award at this festival substantiated the
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films from 20 countries have been screened.  Given the implied wide reach of the sources from this valley, they may be enough.
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Though it applies to organisations (and though these are community organisations and the events they run), consideration of
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notice of cancellation adds to WP:GNG notability.  An event that runs for 15 years is not "short lived".
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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without generating enough non-local coverage - what suggests a few more months would help?
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applies but I can't find any other significant coverage that might allow this to meet
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is the only source I was able to find. And these are two related AFD discussions:
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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which redirects to the festival's old name. They changed it in 2008 to
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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