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733:: It is painfully obvious that some of those in favour of deleting this article have little understanding of the extent to which the better open source software tools have been embraced by mainstream organisations, not simply because they cost less but because they are more useful than some high priced competitors. I recommend a quick read of some of the following WP articles to get a feel for the topic: 31: 459:: The above link is also for another company (that offers a "laptop rescue and repair service"). There are many sources for the software under discussion, whether or not they establish notability. Please take the time to examine some of them before summarily dismissing this product. 804:
which indicates it is teh most popular open source test management tool but there is no indication of how reliable this information is. I tried searching for articles about testlink in various magazines such as Linux Journal and Linux World and turned up nothing. I did find this
702:- this is great open source software we use on real projects, it's comparable to Test Director, only it's free and the market share of the tool is growing very fast, in the future more and more companies will switch to TestLink. Does it deserve to be in Knowledge (XXG)? For sure. 505:"The "secondary sources" in the criterion include reliable published works in all forms, such as (for example) newspaper articles, books, television documentaries, and published reports by consumer watchdog organizations", with the example: 439:. As above states, google hits don't show notability. I thought I found good sources, but they are actually for TestLink Ltd., a completely different company involved ikn voting machines. Sources I did find were PR wire stuff, i.e. 620:
Yes, google links alone don't alone make notability, but they are a good indicator. The users about wanting to keep, appear to be new users, who are not familiar with all of the myriad rules that we have. Industry publications:
267:: I suspect that among the 538,000 hits on Google will be one or two of significance. I have used this software on real projects, and believe it to be one of the best of all the available "freebies" in this segment. 184: 521:
It is uncommon for open source software to have books written about it, so some other measures are needed. Some suggestions (which might fit some but not all of the software articles currently in WP) are:
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in Dr. Dobb's Journal. But this isn't enough to establish ntoability. If somebody can dig up significant coverage in reliable sources about this software, then I'd have another look at my opinion. --
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Being used by many companies has no influence on the decision whether we should have an article on it or not. What we need are reliable sources discussing the subject, as explained in
145: 312:: Testlink is currently the most popular Open Source Test Case management product. As a QA member in the tech startup industry for the past 9 years I think it deserves an entry. 499: 239: 40: 473:
Then where are these sources? They aren't in the article, they aren't on the talk page, and none that meet the criteria have been presented here. My delete stands.
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Do you read deletion debates before you comment? In this case, have you read the comments by Martin Raybourne? Which of those 75 Google News hits are for
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meets at least 2 of the above criteria, placing it on a level footing with many products that have WP articles, such as
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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satisfies this criterion because people who are wholly independent of Microsoft have written books about it."
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and have nothing that supports the belief. If this is closed as keep, it would be because of a head count.
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has very little to offer that might apply to any software product. However I did find the following under
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Incorporated a significant improvement over its predecessors and/or competitors
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http://www.teamst.org/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=7&topicdays=0&start=0
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TestLink? The ones about hardware support, ATMs, or Motorsport are
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to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
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Everything that the keep !voters are saying goes entirely against
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http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/ar-archtools/?ca=dth-grn
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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because none of the given links are for this tool. Fails
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show notability. Saying that the software is useful does
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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review on 2009 December 21
Knowledge (XXG):Deletion review
deletion review
Spartaz
21:53, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
TestLink
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