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notability guidelines, but sometimes such articles could notability guidelines in the present or have a real chance of passing notability guidelines in the future. I wouldn't have volunteered to userfy it if I didn't think that there was a reasonable enough chance that it could gain more coverage. I can assure you that I'm not associated with the publisher and wouldn't move it back to the mainspace until it got more coverage for the second and/or third book. Userfication doesn't really do a lot of harm in instances where the person requesting has no COI, has a genuine interest in updating and/or adding it to the mainspace if/when it gets more coverage, and is aware of what does or doesn't count as reliable sources. Yes, I do hate it when people try to use Knowledge as their own spam garden, but completely deleting everything and closing off the option for interested (and uninvolved) editors to cultivate articles with potential doesn't really help out Knowledge any. It might punish the people using Knowledge as a promotional avenue, but it's sort of cutting off a piece of your nose to spite your face.
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I have to argue a weak keep based on the BotCfCB review, which is considered to be more in-depth than the other stuff. I do see evidence of a VOYA review on the amazon page for the book, but can't seem to actually locate it elsewhere so I'm not really counting that towards this book. If someone can
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Just because it's created by someone with a COI doesn't mean that it couldn't potentially pass notability guidelines at some point in time. Normally, yes, most of the time the articles created by someone with a COI are decidedly non-notable and are unlikely to gain any real coverage to pass
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dig it up, I'm willing to change to a keep. In any case, I'm still not really solid as far as my keep goes, so I volunteer to userfy this until the next book comes out if it's to be deleted. If the second book gets coverage, we can always move it back to the mainspace.
552:. And it's part of a series so will become more notable: "Given an author and their works, both of which are mildly notable, it's better to keep the article on the author, who may write more--and if the book is reasonably successful, generally does." 421:
to the author (and I argued for keep at that AfD). ' Given an author and their works, both of which are mildly notable, it's better to keep the article on the author, who may write more--and if the book is reasonably successful , generally does.
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nonnotable book, has been reviewed, but no extensive coverage, i couldnt find any. PS we cant call it a trilogy until all 3 are published. this is really an article on the first book.
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You're right. The coverage thus far doesn't seem significant enough. Userfy might be a good option in this case. I still don't believe this article belongs in the main space.
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created by associates of the coauthor in order to promote her. Let an unassociated person incubate this article, if anyone unassociated actually thinks it's worth doing so.
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Let's be clear: you're quoting another editor, directly above, and not any sort of policy. And the quote is a reason
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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is a very poor argument. Would you care to refactor, pointing to any
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Exactly what part of "the reviews push this over criteria #1 of
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is appropriate here, since she's not the sole author.
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