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206:), plus they recorded for the Peel Sessions, I suggest this last item demonstrates notability. The Alternative Tentacles website blurb for the reissue of the LP mentions "As heard on "Democracy Now" 2/9/06,"; I havn't listened to the show to see what this refers too, but note that searching for "Beatnigs" on the DN website turns up six different stories (all with Franti as focus, but I think if they mention the Beatnigs everytime they introduce him, that suggests that the Beatnigs are notable). Beatnigs concert review in the New York Times 377:- jawdroppingly ignorant nomination demonstrating a severe lack of judgement on the part of the nominator. Suggest writing articles before going anywhere near AFD, and possible removal of any other nominations for wasting AFD time with silliness like this. (Note I do not question sincerity, merely quality of judgement) - 393:
note that the article was not in anything like its present state when originally speedy deleted, it met the criteria for speedy deletion, and was undeleted by the nominator, and sent here to AfD, at my request. I can find no fault with the nominators actions, and suggest you rethink your comments,
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The AMG bio seems to be a decent source, and they did have an album on Alternative Tentacles, which seems to be a very notable label (with a neat name, no less). However, I'm not finding much more about them, so I say only weak keep. Alternatively, I guess it could be merged to
305: 328:- Democracy Now! is a minor podcast-level radio program. It wouldn't normally be accepted as a source for anything on Knowledge (XXG). Being on Alternative Tentacles does certainly meet 122: 129:
Contested speedy. I deleted this as A7 for lack of an assertion of notability, but the article actually does assert notability by having being a former band of
253:(as well as asserting the notability required to avoid being a speedy candidate) - an album on Alternative Tentacles is half-way to another of the criteria. A 249:
Quite a number of people, by the looks of it. Being a former band of Michael Franti means that it can be considered to have passed one of the criteria at
216:. I count nine links to this article from WP mainspace. Lastly, thanks to Coredesat for undeleting the article and sending here, as I had requested. 133:. I'm not 100% convinced of this band's notability, so I have brought this here for discussion. The only reference is a very short All Music article. 54: 17: 349: 89: 84: 93: 340:? There aren't even any sources given, except for a few reviews - certainly not a sufficient asserton of notability to pass 76: 477: 36: 345: 214: 207: 280:
A quick Google Books search shows several references to the Beatnigs. I'd say they meet criteria 1, 5, and 6 of
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Reliable sources provided in the form of two New York Times pieces, one academic journal and assorted books.
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as that's a major and important independent label... but where's the proof that this article passes
438: 399: 363: 290: 235: 221: 202:, also deserves his own article. One LP and an EP on Alternative tentacles (the EP was a remix by 157: 137: 266: 329: 313: 281: 250: 176: 378: 210: 199: 80: 49: 29:
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Multiple sources. Recommend nominator cease from nominating similar articles for deletion.
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Suggest against a redirect to Franti on the grounds that another member of The Beatnigs,
434: 395: 359: 285: 217: 153: 134: 130: 341: 337: 261: 72: 64: 110: 417: 209:, more New York Times coverage (documenting Beatnigs participation in the 179:. Could make a redirect to existing section in Franti's article. - 470:
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
344:. Probably the best that can be done is a redirect to Franti. 306:
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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
UltraExactZZ
Evidence
20:57, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
The Beatnigs
The Beatnigs
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
delete
View log
Michael Franti
Core
desat
18:54, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Michael Franti
Ten Pound Hammer
19:14, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
WP:MUSIC
Realkyhick
Talk to me
20:45, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Rono Tse

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