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1850:, a newspaper, and the CoG is the fourth down with 110 words. Yes, it's short, but also more than a passing mention and acceptable. #6 is from Pandia, a news aggregator. And, again, articles do not have to be signed. Many aren't, even in mainstream newspapers. Two articles are dated from 2004, so this is not an overnight internet meme. If there was only one reliable source, I would agree with you, and I wouldn't have spent the multiple hours working on this, but taken together, there is more than sufficient support for notability. I don't see anything bogus or anything to indicate that Knowledge (XXG) is a party to strengthening this phenomenon, as you claim, as all we are doing is reporting what reliable sources are saying to indicate it's notability. And this church is no more or less appropriate or valid, than any other church, mainstream or not, serious or not, parody or not, whether there are 2 million members, 2 thousand, or 20 (and no, I have no idea how many members of CoG there are, not that it matters). God manifesting himself as a burning bush, or as a search engine, is just as valid or not, as believable or not, as any belief by anyone. 48:. This is a tricky one. Although the keep votes vastly outnumber the delete votes, the arguments made by the delete votes are greater than those made by the keep votes. Looking over reasons for sources proving notability, 13 out of 18 are from the site itself, Ref 7 doesn't work, two more refs only link to sites that have it in a directory, and the last two are from other sources that could establish notability but fall just below the line. The majority of keeps are per previous consensus (I closed that one also), and claims that other less notable subjects have articles. Neither of these address the issues list in the nom or by opposes. Therefore, although the votes say keep, the strength of arguments say delete. 2064:, but you are attempting to raise the notability bar on this article way above any reasonable or policy/guideline based requirements. For example, I have seen a article on a movie, still in production, pass an AfD with ONLY two trade magazine articles (no mainstream newspapers) that essentially did nothing but list the production data, such as principal actors, director, title, genre, etc, without any critical or otherwise significant coverage. It was essentially an IMDB listing in prose form and yet they were deemed independent reliable sources for a movie no one had even seen yet. Where is the consistency across articles in applying notability? And no, this is not an 336:- For Google's Sake people! Why is this even being considered for deletion? It's not noteable enough? What the hell is so wrong with the article? Someone is upset cause it's a parody religion? Well same with The Invisible Pink Unicorn. Oh and please, let us not forget The Flying Spaghetti Monster. This is just stupid that the CoG's article is being nominated for deletion (AGAIN!). Seriously, just keep it. It's notable enough....shit here is a quick definition of the term notable: "noteworthy: worthy of notice; "a noteworthy advance in cancer research"" The CoG to me is definatly noteable...-- 1740:) on their website front page. All seven reliable sources (plus all the sources I didn't use as they were blogs or passing mentions) refer to it as "The Church of Google". Even the single article you mentioned from the University of Alberta refers to it as "The Church of Google" both as the title and in the lede. The term Googalism may refer to their belief in much the same way Catholicism refers to that belief, but not necessarily to the Catholic Church, which is one of the churches whose members profess that belief. Googlism is 1362:. Alright, here we go. First, as mentioned, we had a AfD for this article 3 weeks ago. For wassup to just delete it was wrong. I'm glad that it has been restored. Second, again, a "meta-consensus" does not work, because they were consensuses for DIFFERENT ARTICLES. The Church of Google != Universal Church of Google, and each CoG article was different. Yes, right now the article needs work, and definitely more reliable sources. But it is in now way the worst article on WP. 1547:. BTW, the term is parody religions, not fake religions, from a long tradition of parodies and satires in our culture. The word fake implies deceit when these are parodies. Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater here, as this article has more than sufficient RS. Edit the article rather than destroy it. Deletion is an extreme last resort only justifiable when there is no intrinsic notability, clearly not the case here, as even you admitted. — 1710:. Not notable. The only external reference to "googlism" is the existence of a single student group at one university, where it is not even clear that the group exists. The other references are to the page itself. This is clearly something someone made up someday. There is nothing wrong with Knowledge (XXG) documenting a parody religion, but Knowledge (XXG) is not to be used as 1657:
thought that since like does with like under "See Also," trhat it would be appropriate to add links there. No fluffing intended. Actually, no fluffing realized. Sorry. Oh, and same goes for the references. I wasn't going for a bunch of references, but rather to more easily organize the article. Again, I wasn't trying to fluff. Just Accidentally misusing the system.
1000:- I agree with the deletionists that the sourcing for this article is horrible. However, it's simply not true that there are no reliable sources. One just needs to actually look in more than a casual way. After bypassing the self referential citations and blogs listed in the article, I find that there are more than sufficient 691:- I don't understand where all you guys are getting the idea that this is notable. Has anyone actually examined the refs? Sure there are 24 refs, but 14 are to the churchofgoogle.org page itself (first party, doesn't count for much), 2 are to something called gozkino.com, which doesn't load for me, one is 2059:
Simply not true and a misrepresentation of the references. The references I listed here—and most of them are incorporated into the article—are independent reliable sources, and they are significantly and well in excess of the requirements to show notability. WP:RS calls for multiple reliable sources.
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article is 413 words, to pick the articles with the most coverage. Our job to to find significant coverage in reliable sources to establish notability and then improve the article. There clearly is more than enough here for notability, even as noted by others. I even just added two more references to
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You are correct that it's about the notability of a church not it's validity. I lost my train of thought at the end of my comment. My intention was to say something like this: Although any church (or religion) is as valid as any other, I'm concerned that there is a tendency to think that this church
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Of those sources, and are the same article. is unreadable (i get about one sentence). Number is by "staff writer" from an often self-written rag. is an article titled "X-Men Wanted" about Uri Geller. is the aforementioned student group. is again not authored. It seems to me something should
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dated 19 March at 6:21. All those links work. I complied them in one place to help everyone check the sources themselves. The article itself is in poor shape and you should have seen the stuff and links I already threw out. I'm still working on it and the links there. But that an editing issue, not
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the fact that there are now three of us in addition to the nominator having given "delete" !votes renders this discussion ineligible for a speedy close. And granted, the discussion may have started off on an IDONTLIKEIT footing, but since then it has highlighted the fact that the so called "reliable
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to me. It makes absolutely no sense that consensus would change in three weeks. Come back and renominate in three months, if you still think it should be deleted. There was some discussion (I can't remember where, but I don't believe it made it to guideline status) that it would be a good idea that
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It's true that IDONTLIKEIT is an essay, but it's perfectible acceptable as an argument in an deletion discussion, or elsewhere, and I have seen it used in a great many discussions, which establishes it's legitimate use via precedent and implied consensus. It is a shortcut for a particular argument,
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Response to Mostlyharmless: I think you missed the point. The two sources you mentioned are at the bottom of the list in terms of amount of coverage on the Church. The Gatehouse articles (in at least two newspapers) have 797 words on Church of Google. That's rather significant coverage. The newly
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is not an valid argument. You are correct that the extensive self references is an issue and I was debating deleting all them, except for a few external links, and I guess I will now. In addition, the article is in poor shape, but those are issues that should be addressed by editing, not deletion,
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Well I'm standing by my delete nomination despite these sources. To be quite honest there are far too many articles these days that scrape through AfD on only a tiny number of sources, and it is making Knowledge (XXG) look like a joke. A small number of sources can be justified in some cases (e.g.
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yourself. You should of seen the ones I threw out. As to the article: If the self referential citations and links you are worried about were removed, would you feel better about the article? Because I don't like them either and think they don't belong there. The article does need an overhaul. —
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Sorry about the "fake" vs. "parody" thing, I didn't mean to be disparaging. For the record, I think those parody religions are cool. heh... That said, your reply doesn't assuage my feeling that Knowledge (XXG) is being exploited here. I'll strikeout my characterization of the # of RSes, but I
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argument, this is about fairness and consistency in criteria application with an example. Returning to this article, the only "promotional" references are in the article itself, which is appropriate when describing the Church of Google's own beliefs or themselves. I removed all the the blogs and
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reference, #3, may be an abstract or a short article of 140 words, in any case significantly much more than a passing mention, and acceptable as a RS. As to #4, there is no requirement that articles be signed and it's not a blog. Staff writer is acceptable and often used. #5 is a group of short
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I'm the author of which the above speaks of spamming. I just wish to make clear that I thought that the CoG fell under the same category as those other religions, and so I thought it appropriate to add the links. I am sorry if this practice is frowned upon on WP. Honestly, I didn't know. I just
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WP:NOTAGAIN is a procedural and process issue, as it's unreasonable and disruptive to renominate an article three weeks after a keep AfD close, although I'm AGF. Why let it run? Don't we have more AfDs than we can handle or that anyone can even reasonably keep track of? Yes, WP:IDONTLIKEIT was
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Original research offers forth some kind of thesis or experimental results never before published. Matter of factly repeating information from primary sources about a notable topic is consistent with encyclopedic tradition. The article is not arguing anything, nor is it some kind of original
302:- Ok I think people are just getting offended that is no reason for deletion. It is notable there is a site and a church with real everyday followers Why is this getting more heat the FSM or IPU? are they really that notable? This has been on news and other places also it is well on its way. -- 1594:
as it's a mention in passing and therefore really doesn't qualify as RS. But I bypassed all the blogs, and there were hundreds listed in the Google hits and a bunch listed in the article. That leaves eight in my compilation, and I didn't see any indication that they were blogs, but look for
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like it, heh... I think the whole idea is pretty funny. But I am not voting Keep (I was eventually convinced to retract my Delete vote, but I will go no further than that) because the 3rd party mentions are really teetering on the borderline. When I read the Delete votes, I don't see any
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I apologize for putting "googlism" in quotes. When I went through the refs, I didn't find references to a group--under any description--except the one I mentioned. Can you perhaps help out by putting clear and unmistakable links here, from third parties, which refer to the "church of
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we've almost got borderline notability here. But I am very concerned that we are being played here. The references section was purposely puffed up with fluff to make it look more notable than it really is, and the author is now pseudo-spamming all the other "fake" religions
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my list, which total nine now. Saying that the coverage is of the "isn't this funny" kind is original research, in that's it's an interpretation of the sources. The totality of the sources just don't support your delete !vote, and I ask you to reconsider. Thank you. —
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with more than passing mention. One would hardly expect a Catholic publication to go into much detail about a religion that pokes fun at them, and yet, even it has 140 words, significantly more than a passing mention. It's a small article but it qualifies as RS. And
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for subjects in categories where receiving any coverage at all is rare) but my personal opinion is that where coverage is as thin on the ground as this, there needs to be some convincing reason as to why the article should be kept. (You may wish to see
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Items #1 & #2 are from the same news service, true, but appear in different newspapers. That qualifies both of them, since any newspaper can run a news service article or not, depending on their judgment and oversight, in the same way that
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Of these sources, and are the same article. and don't say anything about it and seem to be stale links or something. and are unattributed. And is not evidence of anything. That leaves us with one article only two months ago. This is
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of commitment to the story. But I'm worried that you have suddenly brought up "validity" or "believability" as if those were criteria. You seem to be saying "this religion is as believable/valid as those other ones", which is
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last time round was a keep, and it was only 3 weeks ago. The last one is the one that matters--how is this different from repeated delete nominations?? WP includes internet jokes and memes if they are notable enough. This one
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and several keep arguments here and before, especially by DGG and LGRdC. It's a perfectly valid and encyclopedic article that can be cleaned up, as many articles can be and should be before being nominated for deletion, per
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but because the sources cited have been scrutinised more closely and found to be insufficient. Maybe a deletion review may have been more appropriate, but we're into another AfD anyway, so we might as well just let it run.
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has been mentioned several times. This is an essay. It is not official Knowledge (XXG) policy. It is not a consensus-based guideline. It is 'just' an essay. It holds no water in a deletion debate. Cheers!
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You are absolutely right about Tech Republic, Jaysweet. I got it mixed up with a technical news aggregator, but it's a blog. Good catch. I'm removing it from my list and from the article also. Thanks. —
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I have no idea how you come up with only two RS from a list of nine that I complied: including several newspapers, Pandia, Tech Republic, and a university. All with significant, independent, and all but
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renominations should have a mandated minimum period before the renomination could take place to avoid this kind of issue and forum shopping. For this article, the closing rationale in the 2nd AfD was:
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not "validity". I think the problem with an unsigned article, precisely in a contentious case, is that it makes it impossible to tell the origin of the story. Newspapers who carry a wire story are
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The result was Keep. Both sides make good arguments here, but in the end, this does have sources and as as much of a "meme" as some of the other faux-religions that have articles on Knowledge (XXG).
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applied to the deletion arguments. However, to repeat, having poor references is not a reason to delete, it's a reason to look for good ones. And we did have consensus in the 2nd AfD. —
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which is official policy: "Knowledge (XXG) is not an indiscriminate collection of information." I can't find any reputable seconday source like an article in the LA Times. Cheers!
983:— significant coverage by multiple reliable sources? No, I'm afraid not — this church is not notable. Come back with sources (which appear to be unavailable) and I'll reconsider. 664:. It would be best if the blog sources were removed and primary sources were lessened. (I've never edited the article, nor have any interest in it. I simply saw it removed from 121: 278: 250: 186: 396:
as the previous nomination resulted in keep less than a month ago; consensus has obviously changed to be on the side of this article for Winter 2008. Sincerely, --
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necessarily making any independent judgment of accuracy or notability, just "ooh, this is cute and trendy"; likewise, an unsigned column is an indication of a
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I strongly disagree there: this debate should NOT be speedily closed as consensus is not clear at this stage. The delete arguments are nothing to do with
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The techreview article is also a blog, as far as I can tell. I guess you are right about the others, though... I have struck my "weak delete" vote. --
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Whatever the status of sourcing for notability was before, primary or whatever, there certainly are sufficient independent, third party, and significant
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And at least some of your nine "reliable sources" are blogs... I haven't clicked on every single one, but at least some of them are questionable. --
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I think this is a serious problem in the discussion here. Deleting the article is not saying it's "not valid as a religion"; it's saying it's
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That's fair and thank you. Now I'm going to work on the article and get rid of as many problems as I can. Come back and check in a bit. —
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While the previous nomination was a month ago, the AfD history of this article was not properly noted on the article's talk page. Cheers!
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It seem that significant coverage has been established to demonstrate notability throughout the discussion, though. Happy Easter! --
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while I still consider this religioncruft, they've got the sources to back it up and, as said, this is way too soon to renominate.
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category, in fact). Half the references are primary sources (which FWIW do NOT establish notability), and none of the others are
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are enough to provide verifiability. The article still needs work, but the topic has attracted enough attention to be notable.
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it is on Knowledge (XXG); and it is completely bogus to see Knowledge (XXG) as part of the way to make something a phenom.
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as I described above. You have completely missed the point here and you are !voting on an article not under discussion. —
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the subject of this discussion. The Church of Google is, and is very well documented by multiple independent third party
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Is it as copious a list as appeared in the article, no, but it's more than sufficient. If I find more, I'll add them. —
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Thus, the consensus of consensus (a meta-consensus) would suggest the article ought to be deleted. Cheers!
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References in the article seem to indicate that it's gotten some press coverage, so I'd call it notable.
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I am also disturbed that several of the references are to articles which do not exist or cannot be read.
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saves time and space, and also has a WP shortcut, which also additionally supports it's valid use. —
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is quite clear that they are not sufficient in and of themselves to provide evidence of notability. —
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for a more thorough outline of my opinions on what should and should not be kept in these cases.) —
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as the article and its variants have under gone multiple AfDs with the majority closing as DELETE:
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indication that people are doing so because they are offended by or dislike parody religions. --
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If the page can be improved, this should be solved through regular editing, rather than deletion.
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A good number of primary sources are sufficiently acceptable to prove notability. Sincerely, --
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Primary sources can be reliable, sometimes even more so than secondary sources. Sincerely, --
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on Google, primary sources are perfectly sufficient for establishing notability. Best, --
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per last AfD, we have independent reliable sources talking about the Church. So keep.
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where it states 'Knowledge (XXG) is not an indiscriminate collection of information'.
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No. Knowledge (XXG) does not have an article just because someone created a domain.
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was in a bad state still, hence it's back here at AFD. See background discussion at
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I disagree: we have a tiny number of old references, and a lot of self-promotion.
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The only existing sources are primary sources or blogs. How is this notable then?
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To me, the delete arguments here and before seem to boil down in the main to
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A good solution is to wait and see how all that stuff will look like. --
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I already did, about half way up this page in a comment with the lede
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They are sufficient when dealing with sub-articles. Sincerely, --
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In addition, as Tb pointed out, I think Beckguy's mention of the
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also runs it, that counts as an additional reliable source. The
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however they are mostly in the "external links" section
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In any event, renominations in under a month seem like
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Knowledge (XXG) creating information out of thin air
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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
The Placebo Effect
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18:36, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
The Church of Google
The Church of Google
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history
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links
watch
logs
views
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View log
Knowledge (XXG):What Knowledge (XXG) is not
Wassupwestcoast
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16:16, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
User talk:DGG#The Church of Google
Knowledge (XXG):Gaming the system
Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/Universal Church of Google
Knowledge (XXG):Deletion review/Log/2006 December 20
Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/The Church of Google
Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/The Church of Google (2nd nomination)
Wassupwestcoast
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