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894:- As the original author of the article (and a South African who pays by MB for internet, and thus is not eloquent in the language of wikipedia edits) I think the article should not be removed on account of the differences in internet accessibility on our various continents. As mentioned above, Knowledge (XXG) has a need for more minority voices, and deletion of an article made by Africans about Africans will only exacerbate the problem. The lack of web-accessible sources citing the various artists included in the film only suggests that they live on a continent where word of mouth and print supersedes the virtual world. I will argue that even in the virtual world, there is enough evidence to justify the notability of the film. In addition to the above-mentioned IMDB, Huffington Post, and Mambo Magazine independent sources, The Creators has screened at the LA Film and Music Weekend, the Fulbright Academy Film Festival, the Texas Black Film Festival, the Hot Docs Doc Shop, the Encounters International Documentary Festival, the National Arts Festival, and the Zanzibar International Film Festival ( 898:) - many more than the one festival mentioned as evidence of 'notability' in the above-linked article. I can also provide direct links to all the artists listed above, but I am not sure if that will resolve the problem. If someone could tell me clearly what exactly needs to be done to remove the deletion notice from the page, I will happily do it. I am, however, a bit confused as my UserTalk message reads "You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the "proposed deletion/dated notice" yet the deletion notice asserts "this notice must not be removed, until the discussion is closed." How do we go about closing this discussion? Apologies if I have unknowingly side-stepped some conventional standards of Knowledge (XXG). 290: 159: 851:
While more would be better, we have "just" enough very decent ones to allow this to remain and be improved. The original findsources above has problems as it will not even lead you to the film's IMDB page.. but I found
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Considering that the film is only now hitting festivals, but HAS already been the recipient of critical commentary and review in some decent reliable sources, we can let it stay and be fixed. We will need a move to
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but as it was felt that the article still had issues, it was then nominated for deletion and a new and different notice was placed.
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discussion is opened, it usually runs about 7 days. The tag comes off after the discussion on THIS page reaches a resolution.
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Also, in seraching for the director, Laura Gamse, I found that the film screened recently at the "LA Film and Music Weekend".
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and clean up the format and tone problems. Sorry to disagree with the nominator about notability, but we DO have a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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As a recipient of a Fulbright Scholarship, she moved to South Africa to make a documentary. The result was
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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is different than a nomination for deletion. THAT notice was renoved by User:Littlebeak,
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Prod removed without explanation. Concern was: No notability claims. Appears to fail
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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