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381:. I'm a little skeptical about its existence. It's not notable outside of the author, that's for certain, but what concerns me is that we don't really have a lot of truly hard evidence of its existence. The problem is that a lot of places, and I mean a LOT of places will pull bibliographies straight from Knowledge (XXG). I believe that Open University is one of the places that does take some material from Knowledge (XXG), and I know other places that will just cut/paste the Knowledge (XXG) article as a whole onto their website. This is why we'd need more than just a bibliography list before I'm entirely certain that this isn't just another hoax that has assumed legitimacy because sources report on it... because they saw this article and figured they should update their materials. It's a little telling that there's no mention of this anywhere in any biographies of Huxley, not even in passing. You'd think that at least some author somewhere would mention that Huxley wrote a second children's novel, especially if it's in such limited supply. Since the article asserts that there is one copy in a school in Germany, I'm going to contact the school to see if a copy actually exists. I'd recommend leaving this open for a little while longer, so I can post whether or not the book actually exists. 451:, especially since it did bleed into some other sources that drew from the Knowledge (XXG) articles. This is pretty much the epitome of why schools say that WP shouldn't be used as a source in and of itself. I hate that they say that, but this is kind of the reason why they have to say it in the first place. 401:
I heard back from the school. They have no record of having a book by that name. This leads me to believe that this is actually a hoax, as the school would have some sort of knowledge of the book in question. I think that this is just a case of someone trying to use Knowledge (XXG) to perpetuate a
406:. It's just very, very telling that there's absolutely nothing out there about this book in any format other than it being included in a basic bibliography list, especially given the vast, vast majority of sources out there that cover the author himself. This is pretty clearly a hoax. 402:
hoax, which isn't anything new to us. I recommend that we remove the article and the mention of the book from the Huxley article as a whole. The only places that seem to list this book or mention it at all are places that seem to have clearly pulled from Knowledge (XXG) itself.
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It's not in the British Library, National Library of Scotland, or Library of Congress. I'm not convinced it exists; certainly fails notability requirements for books. --
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470:. Not notable, and no source or useful article content, irrespective of whether it's a hoax. 35:
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The link you cited is circular sourcing as you suspected, that entire page is copied from
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Probable hoax, couldn't find a single reliable source about this book.
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269:, and the mention of this article on that page is copied from 213: 106: 102: 98: 170: 184: 449:Knowledge (XXG):List of hoaxes on Knowledge (XXG) 73:The Travails and Tribulations of Geoffrey Peacock 65:The Travails and Tribulations of Geoffrey Peacock 43:). No further edits should be made to this page. 501:). No further edits should be made to this page. 359:list of Literature-related deletion discussions 319:Open University have it in their bibliography 8: 357:Note: This debate has been included in the 356: 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 447:: We should probably list this at 24: 317:I don't think its a hoax, the 1: 243:, but it might be a case of 518: 267:Science, Liberty and Peace 490:Please do not modify it. 304:13:58, 13 May 2014 (UTC) 59:18:00, 14 May 2014 (UTC) 32:Please do not modify it. 480:17:56, 9 May 2014 (UTC) 463:13:41, 9 May 2014 (UTC) 439:02:41, 9 May 2014 (UTC) 418:02:34, 9 May 2014 (UTC) 393:04:00, 8 May 2014 (UTC) 371:23:18, 7 May 2014 (UTC) 350:15:20, 6 May 2014 (UTC) 331:13:45, 6 May 2014 (UTC) 283:21:40, 6 May 2014 (UTC) 261:13:11, 6 May 2014 (UTC) 229:12:20, 6 May 2014 (UTC) 204:12:09, 6 May 2014 (UTC) 271:Template:Aldous Huxley 210:Template:Aldous Huxley 208:Note: it was added to 429:. Implausible hoax. 48:The result was 373: 509: 492: 459: 414: 404:Delete as a hoax 389: 300: 294: 257: 251: 217:User:Tjmayerinsf 189: 188: 174: 126: 114: 96: 34: 517: 516: 512: 511: 510: 508: 507: 506: 505: 499:deletion review 488: 457: 412: 387: 302: 298: 292: 259: 255: 249: 131: 122: 87: 71: 68: 41:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 515: 513: 504: 503: 483: 482: 472:SamuelTheGhost 465: 442: 423: 422: 421: 420: 396: 395: 375: 374: 353: 352: 334: 333: 311: 310: 309: 308: 307: 306: 296: 275:109.76.199.245 253: 192: 191: 128: 67: 62: 46: 45: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 514: 502: 500: 496: 491: 485: 484: 481: 477: 473: 469: 466: 464: 461: 460: 454: 450: 446: 443: 440: 436: 432: 428: 425: 424: 419: 416: 415: 409: 405: 400: 399: 398: 397: 394: 391: 390: 384: 380: 377: 376: 372: 368: 364: 360: 355: 354: 351: 347: 343: 342:Colapeninsula 339: 336: 335: 332: 328: 324: 320: 316: 313: 312: 305: 301: 295: 289: 286: 285: 284: 280: 276: 272: 268: 264: 263: 262: 258: 252: 246: 242: 238: 237: 233: 232: 231: 230: 226: 222: 218: 214: 211: 206: 205: 201: 197: 187: 183: 180: 177: 173: 169: 165: 162: 159: 156: 153: 150: 147: 144: 141: 137: 134: 133:Find sources: 129: 125: 121: 118: 112: 108: 104: 100: 95: 91: 86: 82: 78: 74: 70: 69: 66: 63: 61: 60: 57: 55: 51: 44: 42: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 489: 486: 467: 456: 444: 426: 411: 403: 386: 378: 337: 314: 287: 235: 234: 207: 193: 181: 175: 167: 160: 154: 148: 142: 132: 119: 49: 47: 31: 28: 453:Tokyogirl79 408:Tokyogirl79 383:Tokyogirl79 323:TheLongTone 245:WP:CIRCULAR 236:Weak delete 212:in 2008 (!) 158:free images 431:Xxanthippe 54:j⚛e decker 495:talk page 363:• Gene93k 37:talk page 497:or in a 117:View log 39:or in a 458:(。◕‿◕。) 445:Comment 413:(。◕‿◕。) 388:(。◕‿◕。) 299:✉ email 256:✉ email 164:WP refs 152:scholar 90:protect 85:history 468:Delete 427:Delete 379:Delete 338:Delete 315:Delete 293:Fauzan 288:Delete 250:Fauzan 136:Google 94:delete 50:delete 179:JSTOR 140:books 124:Stats 111:views 103:watch 99:links 16:< 476:talk 435:talk 367:talk 346:talk 327:talk 279:talk 241:this 225:talk 221:Fram 200:talk 196:Fram 172:FENS 146:news 107:logs 81:talk 77:edit 247:.-- 215:by 186:TWL 115:– ( 478:) 437:) 369:) 361:. 348:) 329:) 290:-- 281:) 273:. 227:) 219:. 202:) 166:) 109:| 105:| 101:| 97:| 92:| 88:| 83:| 79:| 52:. 474:( 441:. 433:( 365:( 344:( 325:( 277:( 223:( 198:( 190:) 182:· 176:· 168:· 161:· 155:· 149:· 143:· 138:( 130:( 127:) 120:· 113:) 75:(

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