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There were 2 European crashes later that month, one on Vienna-Munich and the other Rome-Milan, but it's not clear either would get you to Leicester. I also tried to search Gale NewsVault, Nexis UK, and NewsBank, but found nothing. It's of course possible that Tillery is misspelt, that the date is
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I can't find 'Lester Concert Hall' or 'Leicester Concert Hall'. Nor a plane crash involving a band called 'Tillery'. In the History section, the second edit bears the summary "({wikify} among other things--like veracity check--didn't find anything to confirm)".
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Come to that, were there many German bands playing in England in 1956? The band name looks wrong, too. That sort of band name came in much later - in the 50s band names were rather more in the form of 'The Whatsits' (plurals only) or 'Ephraim and the Doodads'.
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I feel this needs team work. The article has been here since 2005, but neither RichardOSmith nor I seem able to find anything other than mirrors in our search for verification. I can't decide between hoax and totally obscure.
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If this is going to be one of the longest running hoax articles (as it would seem), I'd prefer a reasonable run for this discussion. Let no-one come up with evidence later and claim that we dismissed the article out of hand.
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Note 1: That was my rationale when I nominated it for speedy deletion (A7) though with hindsight it was probably not a speedy candidate due to the age of the article and the claim of importance within it.
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Note 2: This history of the article shows that this hoax, assuming it is, nearly got found out just over a day after it was created. That it subsequently lasted over six years is quite something!
274:. Appears to be a hoax and, if it's not, the total lack of sources means it's not notable. The only Lester Hall I can find is a care home for the elderly in, surprisingly, Leicester. 447:
I can't find anything either, including checking in German. Unless the date and/or the city and/or the band name are incorrect - and those 3 items are pretty much the entire article.
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The concert hall in Leicester is the De Montford Hall. But there does not seem to have been an air crash on the date mentioned...one in Canada a couple of days earlier.
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incorrect, the band were Swedish, and they were killed when their swan pedalo hit an orang-utan. But we can't do everything. --
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gives another one but it seems unlikely that a German band travelling to Manchester would be on a flight from
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All good points. At least you're willing to take it on trust that, if they did exist, they were a band. ;-)
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BTW @TPH Check your maths. This will be THE longest running hoax so far, not the second longest.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Hoax. The very thorough site PlaneCrashInfo has one crash on the specified date, at
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gives details of a fatal plane crash on 1956-12-12 but there were no passengers;
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