483:
off-line). Less well-known people may be mentioned within other articles (e.g. Ronald Gay in
History of violence against LGBT people in the United States). See m:Wikipeople for a proposed genealogical/biographical dictionary project. This person is not well known, famous or notorious. There are many games designers more famous than this person without wikipedia pages.
478:
Some relevant guidelines: Sources should be "Independent of the subject". "Independent of the subject" excludes works produced by those affiliated with the subject or its creator. For example, self-publicity, advertising, self-published material by the subject, autobiographies, and press releases are
486:
Knowledge (XXG) is not a soapbox or means of promotion. The user who created this page has no list of other created pages, the account was created solely for the creation of this page. This makes it likely the user is the subject of the page and is using wikipedia as a means of self promotion. This
318:
Actually, The moby games link can't be used since the Video Game
Wikiproject has listed that source as being completely unreliable on the grounds that the site is user submitted with no evidence of editorial oversite. It did state this the site could be used for a prilimary search for obscure games
482:
Knowledge (XXG) is not a directory of everything that exists or has existed: Genealogical entries. Biography articles should only be for people with some sort of fame, achievement, or perhaps notoriety. One measure of these is whether someone has been featured in several external sources (on or
479:
not considered independent. It is common for Games professionals to create their own mobygames page and cannot be assumed to be an independent source (hence why it's listed as non suitable source). Similarly, linkedin pages are always created by the subject.
157:
404:
Do you have any evidence to support this since the relevant wikiproject (WP:VG) has deemed it to not be reliable or have any editorial oversite. Not to mention there is no other citations in the article so there is no third party
381:
on the site to be approved by qualified approvers. Without evidence, it is not accepted on the site. That's why mobygames is a reliable source of factual information verified by an independant 3rd party.
455:
as non-notable BIO. Profile page or credit listing is not really an indication of notability, no matter how reliable the publisher is. I don't see any other broad coverage on the subject to pass
249:
151:
206:
provides reliable evidence of his work as MobyGames only allows entries that are verified by evidence such as credit videos, screenshots or manuals. The LinkedIn profile for him
91:
86:
95:
118:
78:
297:
237:
267:
188:
A video game designer. Can't find any reliable references about him. I only can find his name listed as one of the many developers on some games.
172:
139:
255:
243:
220:
406:
389:
359:
320:
133:
488:
17:
514:
496:
472:
443:
414:
397:
367:
349:
328:
312:
289:
228:
197:
60:
129:
179:
82:
505:. I googled him and the article appears to be genuine, however I couldn't find anything that demonstrates he's notable.
529:
74:
66:
36:
319:
as a starting off point but it can't be used as a citation in an article. I don't know about the other link though.--
261:
145:
340:, linkedin links are never to be allowed as a reference and generally should not be in the external link section.
528:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
35:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
224:
393:
492:
410:
363:
324:
385:
216:
439:
213:
This provides reliable references not only that he exists, but also that his works can be verified.
337:
203:
468:
165:
424:
341:
189:
345:
308:
285:
193:
29:
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
435:
456:
510:
461:
51:
304:
281:
112:
506:
358:
since with the removal of those two sites the article has no sources at all.--
427:
to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
210:
also provides further evidence of his work from co-worker reccomendations.
207:
204:
http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,205890/
522:
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
274:
108:
104:
100:
164:
379:
requires physical evidence of all information listed
434:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
178:
377:"no evidence of editorial oversite."? Moby Games
39:). No further edits should be made to this page.
532:). No further edits should be made to this page.
238:list of video game-related deletion discussions
8:
296:Note: This debate has been included in the
236:Note: This debate has been included in the
298:list of People-related deletion discussions
295:
266:
208:http://www.linkedin.com/in/spence2000
18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
7:
272:
24:
75:Tim Spencer (video game designer)
67:Tim Spencer (video game designer)
487:is strictly against guidelines.
260:
202:The entry for him at MobyGames
1:
254:
248:
242:
549:
515:22:17, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
497:18:30, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
473:17:30, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
61:05:23, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
444:00:04, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
415:02:22, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
398:19:58, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
368:01:51, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
350:23:11, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
329:20:33, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
313:19:19, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
290:19:18, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
229:10:12, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
198:08:33, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
525:Please do not modify it.
32:Please do not modify it.
44:The result was
471:
446:
388:comment added by
315:
301:
292:
219:comment added by
59:
540:
527:
464:
460:
433:
429:
400:
302:
279:
278:
277:
270:
264:
258:
252:
246:
235:
231:
183:
182:
168:
116:
98:
58:
56:
49:
34:
548:
547:
543:
542:
541:
539:
538:
537:
536:
530:deletion review
523:
462:
422:
383:
273:
241:
214:
125:
89:
73:
70:
52:
50:
37:deletion review
30:
22:
21:
20:
12:
11:
5:
546:
544:
535:
534:
518:
517:
476:
475:
449:
448:
447:
431:
430:
419:
418:
417:
375:
374:
373:
372:
371:
370:
316:
293:
221:88.111.161.239
186:
185:
122:
69:
64:
42:
41:
25:
23:
15:
14:
13:
10:
9:
6:
4:
3:
2:
545:
533:
531:
526:
520:
519:
516:
512:
508:
504:
501:
500:
499:
498:
494:
490:
484:
480:
474:
470:
466:
458:
454:
451:
450:
445:
441:
437:
432:
428:
426:
421:
420:
416:
412:
408:
407:76.66.188.209
403:
402:
401:
399:
395:
391:
390:88.111.164.45
387:
380:
369:
365:
361:
360:76.66.188.209
357:
354:In that case
353:
352:
351:
347:
343:
339:
335:
332:
331:
330:
326:
322:
321:76.66.188.209
317:
314:
310:
306:
299:
294:
291:
287:
283:
276:
269:
263:
257:
251:
245:
239:
234:
233:
232:
230:
226:
222:
218:
211:
209:
205:
200:
199:
195:
191:
181:
177:
174:
171:
167:
163:
159:
156:
153:
150:
147:
144:
141:
138:
135:
131:
128:
127:Find sources:
123:
120:
114:
110:
106:
102:
97:
93:
88:
84:
80:
76:
72:
71:
68:
65:
63:
62:
57:
55:
47:
40:
38:
33:
27:
26:
19:
524:
521:
502:
489:46.208.211.1
485:
481:
477:
452:
423:
384:— Preceding
378:
376:
355:
333:
215:— Preceding
212:
201:
187:
175:
169:
161:
154:
148:
142:
136:
126:
53:
45:
43:
31:
28:
436:Ron Ritzman
405:coverage.--
152:free images
338:WP:ELPEREN
54:Sandstein
305:• Gene93k
282:• Gene93k
425:Relisted
386:unsigned
217:unsigned
119:View log
342:Bgwhite
336:. Per
334:Comment
190:Bgwhite
158:WP refs
146:scholar
92:protect
87:history
503:Delete
457:WP:GNG
453:Delete
356:delete
130:Google
96:delete
46:delete
507:Szzuk
465:KNOWZ
173:JSTOR
134:books
113:views
105:watch
101:links
16:<
511:talk
493:talk
469:TALK
463:HELL
459:. —
440:talk
411:talk
394:talk
364:talk
346:talk
325:talk
309:talk
286:talk
275:Talk
225:talk
194:talk
166:FENS
140:news
109:logs
83:talk
79:edit
240:. (
180:TWL
117:– (
513:)
495:)
442:)
413:)
396:)
366:)
348:)
327:)
311:)
303:—
300:.
288:)
280:)
268:RS
227:)
196:)
160:)
111:|
107:|
103:|
99:|
94:|
90:|
85:|
81:|
48:.
509:(
491:(
467:▎
438:(
409:(
392:(
362:(
344:(
323:(
307:(
284:(
271:·
265:·
262:S
259:·
256:B
253:·
250:N
247:·
244:G
223:(
192:(
184:)
176:·
170:·
162:·
155:·
149:·
143:·
137:·
132:(
124:(
121:)
115:)
77:(
Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.