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560:. I would not support keeping the current bus timetable on Knowledge (XXG), but this is similar information to many, many other public transport system articles. IMO, an article like this (accurate, maintained, sourced real information useful to people) should not be deleted; at worst, it should be moved to another Wiki, but I'm not even convinced of that in this case.
231:- it is by no means a lesser version. There is no page on the Translink site that has all this information without wading through hundreds of PDF files. I've relied on it, and there are many of us who frequently update the page as new information is made available that otherwise wouldn't be on the Translink site. -
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725:- this is not a timetable - it's a list of routes and is perfectly acceptable - Hong Kong MTR, CityRail, Metlink, Transperth all have bus routes mentioned in articles - so why not this one. The article needs work, but that's not a reason to delete it. (
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