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176:. First of all, it is not indiscriminatory, but selective (it shouldn't list one-time gags, only major places). Second, it clearly indicates it is a fictional topic, not a real world one. Third, it is salvageable, and fourth, there are several books about precisely this topic. I don't think it's wise to start wiping all content Knowledge has on fiction. Having rebutted all "reasons" given for deletion, I think this does belong, although of course it could stand some pruning and cleanup. 405:(The first international journey by Homer, discussed in the DVD commentary as pushing the limits for the show at the time). There's probably more, but these received significant out of universe coverage. I don't like the article in it's current form. I'd prefer it to be rewritten with the out of universe sources for at least the few I've mentioned, with perhaps a short list of the more notable places (eg Japan, Australia). ● 308:
has an iconic status in Knowledge, and, for that matter, in American culture. Comment being copied and pasted as applicable. (I tend to agree with Radiant on the trainwreck effect, although we would probably have gotten mad if you had bunched them all in a "Delete all" fashion too.)
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pending improvements as suggested above. Of course, it'd help if the nominator had come up with a specific reasoning for this article, as I think this is the weakest one. Though it is still possible that the guidebooks and other material cover it.
634:, Please, do not delete this article has it seem this is a part of deleting campaign of the simpsons. With out this article and others, many people will not understand about information and background about these subjects. For nmore information, 433:. Though I agree that this is the weakest of all the nominated articles, traveling is a major, recurrent theme of the series. The nominator's concerns seem to boil down to "there's too much Simpsons stuff on Knowledge" -- in other words, 153: 168: 555:
conjecture unverified claim "Travel is a common recurring theme in the television show The Simpsons" and goes downhill from there. I'm trying to keep an open mind, but find it difficult to deem this encyclopedic.
652:, no reliable sources on the topics covered. What sources are there are examples of original research, since they are used to assert facts unrelated to the topic that are then synthesised by the authors. 163: 143: 158: 338:
I thought so too, until I hung around here for awhile. Soon, you will be brainwashed like the rest of us. This is not the real world, this is Planet Knowledge. You'll see....
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They are not difficult to source/verify. Even if there were no books or articles on the subject, much of the content can be verified by simply watching the episodes in question.
455:. Note that the phrase " The Simpsons" is in the title for all of them. Is it likely that someone who's never heard of The Simpsons before would think this stuff was real? 110: 601:
some people use this website to learn about their favourite T.V shows so deleting everything doesn't help. I can't remember enough so I us the same pages multiple times.
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For those who say this article can be cleaned up and there are published materials on this highly specific topic, I challenge you all to improve this article.
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Also, I believe you have succesfully created a trainwreck by making seven identical nominations, forcing everybody to repeat themselves several times.
525:. This is not an indiscriminate list. Perhaps it could be cleaned up a bit, but definitely keep. Copy and pasted comment from above as applicable. 318:
It has an iconic status in Knowledge? I didn't know that was an inclusion standard. I thought things had to be notable, you know, in the real world.
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I have reason to believe that such an article does not belong on Knowledge. First of all, it is indiscriminatory, and treats a fictional topic
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Actually, there are people with different comments for different AFDs, so it's working out. Kind of. I didn't know how events would turn out.
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violation. Not to mention it is absolutely unreferenced. I like it very much, but that doesn't mean it belongs.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
568:, for such a successful series, this is a notable topic. Traveling is one of the major themes of the show. -- 66: 58: 35:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Since when is nominating seven articles for deletion a pogrom on fiction? I could've done a lot more.
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These articles are not inherently indiscriminate. As editors, we can decide what's in and what's out.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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attesting to the notability of the theme. Could you point out a few?
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Knowledge:Articles for deletion/List of products in The Simpsons
507:, not whether or not you happen to be a fan of The Simpsons. 266:
On second thought this does appear to be the best approach.
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Related AFDs (separately nominated to prevent trainwreck):
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clearly states this sort of thing should be trans-wikied.
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I, Radiant! and others don't think this page contravenes
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as though it were something that exists in the real world
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Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Religion in The Simpsons
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Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Media in The Simpsons
39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 379:Delete travel article unless completely rewritten. 674:). No further edits should be made to this page. 503:. And I invoked IDONTLIKEIT in regards to these 610:http://simpsons.wikia.com/Wikisimpsons_Central 477:I thought I made myself clear that this is a 8: 385:. From memory, notable destinations include 383:Keep, but expand with sources immediately 121:. This article would be salvageable, but 608:They can easily go to Simpsons wiki at 123:no one publishes articles on this topic 451:They make a clear distinction between 7: 441:and others have pointed out so well: 24: 581:Then there should be a wealth of 368:. of them requires an article. 18:Knowledge:Articles for deletion 1: 657:17:40, 19 August 2007 (UTC) 643:01:20, 18 August 2007 (UTC) 625:01:11, 17 August 2007 (UTC) 590:18:16, 15 August 2007 (UTC) 573:06:20, 15 August 2007 (UTC) 561:03:06, 15 August 2007 (UTC) 544:19:50, 14 August 2007 (UTC) 530:16:58, 14 August 2007 (UTC) 514:02:33, 15 August 2007 (UTC) 491:19:50, 14 August 2007 (UTC) 469:16:50, 14 August 2007 (UTC) 426:15:46, 14 August 2007 (UTC) 413:14:10, 14 August 2007 (UTC) 373:13:08, 14 August 2007 (UTC) 343:22:07, 14 August 2007 (UTC) 328:19:50, 14 August 2007 (UTC) 314:12:05, 14 August 2007 (UTC) 291:08:46, 16 August 2007 (UTC) 262:19:50, 14 August 2007 (UTC) 248:10:41, 14 August 2007 (UTC) 217:19:50, 14 August 2007 (UTC) 201:10:41, 14 August 2007 (UTC) 135:08:47, 14 August 2007 (UTC) 53:13:49, 21 August 2007 (UTC) 691: 354:Delete the travel article 67:Traveling in The Simpsons 59:Traveling in The Simpsons 667:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 304:as described above, 393:played himself), 682: 669: 583:reliable sources 511: 466: 453:fact and fiction 423:FrozenPurpleCube 287: 285: 283: 281: 279: 244: 242: 240: 238: 236: 197: 195: 193: 191: 189: 108: 90: 34: 690: 689: 685: 684: 683: 681: 680: 679: 678: 672:deletion review 665: 640:JoeyLovesSports 509: 464: 277: 275: 273: 271: 269: 234: 232: 230: 228: 226: 187: 185: 183: 181: 179: 81: 65: 62: 44:The result was 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 688: 686: 677: 676: 660: 659: 646: 645: 629: 628: 627: 603: 602: 595: 594: 593: 592: 576: 575: 563: 551:Starts with a 546: 532: 520: 519: 518: 517: 516: 472: 471: 461: 460: 459: 456: 449: 443: 442: 435:WP:IDONTLIKEIT 428: 415: 375: 351: 350: 349: 348: 347: 346: 345: 331: 330: 299: 298: 297: 296: 295: 294: 293: 221: 220: 219: 171: 166: 161: 156: 151: 146: 115: 114: 61: 56: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 687: 675: 673: 668: 662: 661: 658: 655: 651: 650:Strong delete 648: 647: 644: 641: 637: 633: 630: 626: 623: 619: 615: 611: 607: 606: 605: 604: 600: 597: 596: 591: 588: 584: 580: 579: 578: 577: 574: 571: 567: 564: 562: 559: 554: 550: 547: 545: 541: 537: 533: 531: 528: 524: 521: 515: 512: 506: 502: 498: 494: 493: 492: 488: 484: 480: 476: 475: 474: 473: 470: 467: 462: 457: 454: 450: 447: 446: 445: 444: 440: 436: 432: 429: 427: 424: 419: 416: 414: 411: 409: 404: 400: 396: 392: 388: 384: 381: 380: 376: 374: 371: 367: 363: 359: 355: 352: 344: 341: 337: 336: 335: 334: 333: 332: 329: 325: 321: 317: 316: 315: 312: 307: 303: 300: 292: 289: 288: 265: 264: 263: 259: 255: 251: 250: 249: 246: 245: 222: 218: 214: 210: 206: 205: 204: 203: 202: 199: 198: 175: 172: 170: 167: 165: 162: 160: 157: 155: 152: 150: 147: 145: 142: 141: 140: 137: 136: 132: 128: 124: 120: 112: 106: 102: 98: 94: 89: 85: 80: 76: 72: 68: 64: 63: 60: 57: 55: 54: 51: 50:Pascal.Tesson 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 666: 663: 649: 631: 598: 565: 548: 536:MessedRocker 522: 504: 483:MessedRocker 430: 417: 407: 402: 398: 394: 386: 382: 378: 377: 365: 361: 357: 353: 320:MessedRocker 306:The Simpsons 305: 301: 268: 254:MessedRocker 225: 209:MessedRocker 178: 173: 138: 127:MessedRocker 122: 116: 46:No consensus 45: 43: 31: 28: 654:Tim Vickers 636:Click Here 618:WP:FICTION 497:WP:FICTION 479:WP:FICTION 418:Projectify 391:Tony Blair 622:Tendancer 558:Tendancer 340:Mandsford 311:Mandsford 612:, where 587:Otto4711 570:musicpvm 505:articles 439:Radiant! 370:Otto4711 111:View log 527:Useight 510:szyslak 499:and/or 465:szyslak 387:England 84:protect 79:history 614:WP:NOR 549:Delete 501:WP:WAF 399:Brazil 366:detail 362:single 88:delete 553:WP:OR 437:. As 403:India 358:every 270:: --> 227:: --> 180:: --> 105:views 97:watch 93:links 16:< 632:Keep 599:Keep 566:Keep 540:talk 523:Keep 487:talk 431:Keep 408:Bill 395:Cuba 324:talk 302:Keep 286:< 258:talk 243:< 213:talk 196:< 174:Keep 131:talk 101:logs 75:talk 71:edit 109:– ( 638:. 542:) 489:) 410:PP 364:. 360:. 326:) 260:) 215:) 133:) 125:. 103:| 99:| 95:| 91:| 86:| 82:| 77:| 73:| 48:. 538:( 485:( 389:( 322:( 284:t 282:n 280:a 278:i 276:d 274:a 272:R 256:( 241:t 239:n 237:a 235:i 233:d 231:a 229:R 211:( 194:t 192:n 190:a 188:i 186:d 184:a 182:R 129:( 113:) 107:) 69:(

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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
deletion review
Pascal.Tesson
13:49, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
Traveling in The Simpsons
Traveling in The Simpsons
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as though it were something that exists in the real world
MessedRocker
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08:47, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Education in The Simpsons
Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Media in The Simpsons
Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Politics in The Simpsons (2nd nomination)
Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Religion in The Simpsons
Knowledge:Articles for deletion/List of products in The Simpsons
Knowledge:Articles for deletion/List of fictional places on The Simpsons
>Radiant<
10:41, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
MessedRocker
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